Re: [Zappa-List] Stairway

2006-06-14 Thread Andrew Hickey
On 6/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





 Never really struck me as a valid explanation, this question of rights. 
  My
 understanding of copyright is that anybody can cover anybody else's songs as 
 long as
 the proper royalties are paid, where applicable.  This was further expanded 
 back in the
 eighties when 2 Live Crew appropriated Born In The USA as a theme for one 
 of their
 raps, where it was decided that even in a parody one doesn't need to get 
 prior permission  to use the composed tune.

Anyone can legally do a straight cover version, with minimal changes
to fit the artist (such as changing 'he' for 'she' or whatever), of a
previously published song. Anyone can also do a parody of a song
without legal permission. However, changing the lyrics to satirical
ones, if not parodying the song in question, is illegal. If I
rerecorded a Coldplay song and gave it satirical lyrics about Tony
Blair, I would need Coldplay's permission. If I rerecorded the same
song, and gave it lyrics about how bad Coldplay were, I wouldn't, and
it would count as parody. The parody exception has always existed in
law.

There was a decision in the 80s involving a band sampling Pretty
Woman, but I'm having computer problems and can't hunt down the
reference.

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Re: [Zappa-List] Stairway

2006-06-14 Thread marco

 I'd be willing to bet that it was released because FZ could purchase the 
 rights to do so, unlike the Texas Motel Medley where he couldn't. I know that 
 some of the US releases of that tour were slightly different from the UK and 
 world releases because acquiring the rights to some tunes. Wasn't Bolero one 
 of them?
 Lawyers is such crazy peoples!

Yes, the Bolero had to be removed from later pressings because Ravel's heirs 
didn't approve. And that's just one example of copyrights taken to the 
extreme...

best wishes,
Marco


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Re: [Zappa-List]1967 1969 - FLAC SHN formats

2006-06-14 Thread mrk_timbrell
Hi,

I would like to sign up for this if it has not already been sent to 
someone:

Mark Timbreell - UK 

Address just in case:

Mark Timbrell
72 Tregonissey road
St Austell
Cornwall
England
PL25 4DL

TRhank you.

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Greg Hallock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Hello
 I can't find a recent copy of this vine . So it seems that it ends 
here unless you want it send me your address and I'll mail it off.
 Greg H
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mar 2, 2006 6:59 PM
 To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Vine Open: 1967  1969 - FLAC  SHN 
formats
 
 So that makes it: 
 Tom M-US  r2daft2-UK  Peter Moorkins electricloopstation@ 
Belgium John G in Kansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Greg  H in  Detroit 
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[Zappa-List] Chain moving 28/6/80 Messehalle, Sindelfingen, West Germany - 2CD Audio

2006-06-14 Thread electricloopstation2
Hello

John g in Kansas. Can you mail me your addres so I can send the 
cdr's.

And thanks Skip

See you,
EL

I'd like to add myself:

 electricloopstation2(Belgium)  john g in kansas  skipsign 
(us) 

-Skip

=


 The chain is now effectively:

  electricloopstation2(Belgium)  john g in kansas  ???

 Hope everyone is happy with this arrangement.

 Cheers
 Les.






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[Zappa-List] Wolfgang's Vault this week

2006-06-14 Thread davidgolden99
is offering the 05-NOV-1970 Pound for a Brown, plus some Mahavishnu 
Orchestra and Miles Davis. God! This is a tasty little sucker!

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/InRotation.aspx?
LeftNav=Audio/RadioNav.htm





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[Zappa-List] Re: Vine Open Buffalo 11/15/74

2006-06-14 Thread skipsign
This is on it's way to John G!

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, baeyens16
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Can I be included too please ?
 skipsignjohn g in kansas croontoonz1850@  Mark Timbrell -  UK 
 Al - BE 
 
 
   Frank Zappa
   Memorial Auditorium Buffalo N.Y.
   November, 15, 1974
   1st gen SBD tapeSoundforgeEACCDREACFLAC 
   SoundforgePitchcorrectionFlac
   
   Part of a batch of tapes obtained from former Zappa road 
  manager 
  Dick 
   Barber.
   
   F Zappa - Gtr,vcls
   N M Brock - Sax,flute,vcls
   G Duke - Kbds,vcls
   R Underwood - Percussion
   C Thompson - Drums
   T Fowler - Bass 
   
   
   Tracklist:
   Disc 1
   tush tush tush (a token of my extreme)
   stinkfoot
   rdnzl
   village of the sun
   echidna's 'arf (of you)
   don't you ever wash that thing?
   penguin in bondage
   t'mershi duween
   dog breath variations
   uncle meat
   building a girl
   
   Disc 2
   don't eat the yellow snow
   nanook rubs it
   st. alphonso's pancake breakfast
   father o'blivion
   Tush Tush outro
   camarillo brillo
   more trouble every day 






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[Zappa-List] Re: VO: Eyes of Osaka Feb-3-76 and Dallas 17-10-80

2006-06-14 Thread Guy
The Eyes are ready to move on (thank you Greg H.!).
John G in Kansas please get me your address (again).
I remember it is Pittsburgh, Kansas. Right?






--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Add me in at the appropriate spot as well, if we're hopinating 
this  one.
  
 Thanks!
  
 John K
  
 JC (Can)  Greg H (US) (bonarue@)  guygonzo1 -US john g in 
kansas
 - (US)   [EMAIL PROTECTED] US  r2daft2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ) - (UK)   John K - (US)  ???
  
  
 In a message dated 5/17/2006 10:25:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hi  folks,
  
 Put me down for  when the chain is ready to start its european 
tour:
  
 JC (Can)  Greg H (US) (bonarue@)  guygonzo1 -US john g in 
kansas
 - (US)   [EMAIL PROTECTED] US  r2daft2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ) - (UK)  
  
  
 Cheers
 Les.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com  [mailto:Zappa-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Behalf Of  skipsign
 Sent: 17 May 2006 16:57
 To:  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Eyes of  Osaka Feb-3-76 and Dallas 
17-10-80
 
 
 I'd like in  too:
 
 JC (Can)  Greg H (US) (bonarue@) guygonzo1  -US john g in 
kansas
 - (US)  [EMAIL PROTECTED] US  
 
 -Skip
 
 --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Guy  getrhythm@ wrote:
 
  Hey John! How'd you weasel in  before me?
  
  See below: JC (Can)  Greg H (US)  (bonarue@) guygonzo1 -US
  
  Just get me in  there somewhere please.
  
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com,  John Gobetz 
croontoonz1950@ 
  wrote:
  
wow---mee too pleeze!---many thanks!!!---john g in kansas 
aka  Oz
   
   JC (Can)Greg H - US  (bonarue@) john g in kansas - (US)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Guy 
 To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:55 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Eyes of Osaka Feb-3-76 and  
Dallas 
  17-10-80
   
   
  WTF!
  JC (Can)  Greg H  (US) (bonarue@) guygonzo1 -US
   
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Greg Hallock  bonarue@ 
wrote:
 
   Sign me up for this one. Thanks Greg H
   
  
   JC (Can)  Greg H (US) (bonarue@)  
  
   
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: jc maillet jc@
   Sent: May 16, 2006 7:30 AM
  To:  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Subject:  [Zappa-List] VO: Eyes of Osaka Feb-3-76 and 
Dallas 17-
  10-
  80
  
   This amazing 3-disk set is available again - reply  to 
the list 
  by 
  putting your name  after the arrow
  
   JC (Can)  Greg H (US) 
   
  - thx
   
  
   
  
   
  03-02-76 (Eyes of  Osaka)
  Kosei-Neinkin-Kaikan,  Osaka, Japan
  122 min
   
   Band:
  F. Zappa -  Gtr,vcls
  R. Estrada -  Bass,vcls
  N. M. Brock -  Sax,flute,vcls
  A. Lewis -  Kbds
  T. Bozzio - Drums
   
   Disk-1
  Inca  Intro
  Stinkfoot
   Dirty Love
   Filthy Habits
  How  Could I Be Such A Fool?
  I Ain't  Got No Heart
  I'm Not  Satisfied
  Black Napkins (parts on  Zoot Allures)
  Advance  Romance
  
   Disk-2
  Honey  Don't You Want A Man Like Me?
  The  Illinois Enema Bandit
  Wind Up  Workin' In A Gas Station
  Tryin' To  Grow A Chin
  The Torture Never  Stops
  Chunga's Revenge
   Zoot Allures (YCDTOSA #3, Ship Ahoy solo  on SUNPYG)
  I'm The Slime
   San Ber'dino
   
  17-10-80
   Civic Arena
   Dallas, Texas, USA
   
  Band:
   F. Zappa - Gtr,vcls
   S. Vai - Gtr
   R. White - Gtr,vcls
  I.  Willis - Gtr,vcls
  T. Mars -  Kbds,vcls
  B. Harris -  Kbds,vcls
  A. Barrow -  Bass,vcls
  V. Colaiuta -  Drums
  
   Disk-3
  01  Chunga's Revenge
  02 I Don't Wanna  Get Drafted
  03 Cosmik  Debris
  04 Keep It Greasey
   05 Tinseltown Rebellion
   06 Outside Now
   07 Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?
   08 Pick Me I'm Clean
   09 City Of Tiny Lights (incl. She's Not  There)
  10 Easy Meat Part 1
   11 (Guitar Solos)
   12 (Easy Meat Part 2)
   13 Ain't Got No Heart
   14 The Torture Never Stops
   15 (Bass / Keyboard Solos)
   Time: 99
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