Lol. It was the power of a double espresso that made me do it. ;-) Jim L
> Holy crap! That is some email that you just wrote Jim L. > > Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: v\:* > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > mr_and_mrs_skull asked ------------- > > All, > > What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? > > Mr. Skull > > > --------------------------------- > > > I think the term first gained popular usage when mp3 caught on. A music > CD (usually factory made) would be inserted and the act of producing mp3 > files on the hard drive from it was termed ripping. I guess a new term > was necessary in that audio on a music CD is in a format that cant be > stored on a hard drive. CDDA or compact digital disc format. So to get > the music onto your hard drive it cant be just copied but rather must > be changed to a different format. Wav files are almost bit for bit > identical to CDDA but the header is a little different on CDDA by design > so that it cant be copied so easily. At least thats what they thought > back in the early eighties. Mp3 is of course not similar at all and most > of the digital information must be discarded when mp3 is created. Flac > and shn files still contain all of the data from the original wav file > but store it a bit more compactly and can be expanded back into the > original wav file. With mp3 you can expand back to wav but you can never > get back the information thats been tossed out. Thats why theyre > referred to as lossy while wav, flac and shn are considered lossless. > Much of the information that gets tossed out in the creation of mp3 isnt > even audible however and thats why they can sound as good as the do. > Results seem to vary dramatically to my ear depending on what encoder is > used. To me LAME makes the very best mp3 and razorlame is a good front > end for it. Both are free. > > Then DVD entered the picture. Commercially produced DVD is encrypted and > so cant be directly copied to the hard drive or disc ether. So ripping > software for DVD became available in short order. It decrypts the files > so that they can be copied. Unencrypted DVDs like we share here can be > directly copied to the hard drive. > > Also if you do a direct disc copy of a CD it doesnt have to be ripped > to another format but can directly copy the CDDA files. The belief that > EAC (exact audio copy) software is superior at reading the disc however > has lead to the practice of ripping an audio CD into wav files first and > then authoring a new CD from them rather than doing a disc copy. > Everything Ive read as well as my own experiences seems to back up this > belief. Ideally a software could read the disc like EAC but create a > disc image from the data instead of making wav files. That would avoid > converting from CDDA to wav and then back to CDDA just to copy a disc. > Perhaps EAC will get around to that in the future. > > Jim L > > > --------------------------------- > > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:30 PM > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Zappa-List] Ripping? > > > All, > > > > What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? > > > > Mr. Skull > > > > > > "Being in politics is like being a football coach; you have to be > smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's > important." -Eugene McCarthy, 1968 > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, > whatever. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Know an art & music fan? Make a donation in their honor this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VwqHaC/.VHMAA/n1hLAA/yXLolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/