Lol. It was the power of a double espresso that made me do it. ;-)

Jim L

> Holy crap! That is some email that you just wrote Jim L.
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>   mr_and_mrs_skull asked -------------
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>   All,
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>   What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying?
>
>   Mr. Skull
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>   I think the term first gained popular usage when mp3 caught on. A music
> CD (usually factory made) would be inserted and the act of producing mp3
> files on the hard drive from it was termed ripping. I guess a new term
> was necessary in that audio on a music CD is in a format that can’t be
> stored on a hard drive. CDDA or compact digital disc format. So to get
> the music onto your hard drive it can’t be just copied but rather must
> be changed to a different format. Wav files are almost bit for bit
> identical to CDDA but the header is a little different on CDDA by design
> so that it can’t be copied so easily. At least that’s what they thought
> back in the early eighties. Mp3 is of course not similar at all and most
> of the digital information must be discarded when mp3 is created. Flac
> and shn files still contain all of the data from the original wav file
> but store it a bit more compactly and can be expanded back into the
> original wav file. With mp3 you can expand back to wav but you can never
>  get back the information that’s been tossed out. That’s why they’re
> referred to as lossy while wav, flac and shn are considered lossless.
> Much of the information that gets tossed out in the creation of mp3 isn’t
> even audible however and that’s why they can sound as good as the do.
> Results seem to vary dramatically to my ear depending on what encoder is
> used. To me LAME makes the very best mp3 and razorlame is a good front
> end for it. Both are free.
>
>   Then DVD entered the picture. Commercially produced DVD is encrypted and
> so can’t be directly copied to the hard drive or disc ether. So ripping
> software for DVD became available in short order. It decrypts the files
> so that they can be copied. Unencrypted DVD’s like we share here can be
> directly copied to the hard drive.
>
>   Also if you do a direct disc copy of a CD it doesn’t have to be ripped
> to another format but can directly copy the CDDA files. The belief that
> EAC (exact audio copy) software is superior at reading the disc however
> has lead to the practice of ripping an audio CD into wav files first and
> then authoring a new CD from them rather than doing a disc copy.
> Everything I’ve read as well as my own experiences seems to back up this
> belief. Ideally a software could read the disc like EAC but create a
> disc image from the data instead of making wav files. That would avoid
> converting from CDDA to wav and then back to CDDA just to copy a disc.
> Perhaps EAC will get around to that in the future.
>
>     Jim L
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> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:30 PM
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Zappa-List] Ripping?
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>
>     All,
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>
>
>     What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying?
>
>
>
>     Mr. Skull
>
>
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> important." -Eugene McCarthy, 1968
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