Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats
You´re pretty much right on most of it, Richard. About pal-m however, it´s not compatible with european Pal because pal-m was developed here by the military as a way of protecting the brazilian tv industry (or so they thought, i´m simplifying the story a lot here). It´s actually a modification of pal, but we´re the only ones who use this format. Nowadays most tvs here understand both pal-m and ntsc, but almost every digital equipment around only work in ntsc, i think even tv stations do all their stuff on ntsc and convert it only when they broadcast. Now guess what, the morons here want to do the same mistake again and make our own digital tv system, instead of picking the same one most people in the rest of the world will soon be using. Bah. Gabriel On 5/17/05, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am probably wrong, but I would say that M would probably be compatible with the UK PAL system. I have noticed on some old cordless home TV distribution systems, a switch which changes the PAL system transmitter between two different pal systems. To my recollection it didn't make a lot of difference, possibly the sound was different slightly, could be mistaken there though. That was some years ago and auto sensing circuitry would cover that issue now in even the cheapest DVD player. Most incompatibilities these days are deliberately built in to make companies rich, not because they are genuinely incompatible. Like region codes! The original reason that pal secam and ntsc exist is all down to when countries went colour and what technology was available, cos you couldn't keep asking your public to buy new compatibleTV's every time there was a breakthrough. Yet you wanted more reliable transmission systems. NTSC used to be known as Never The Same Colour twice by its PAL competitors. - Original Message - From: Gabriel To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats Brazil uses its own format called Pal-m. Pretty stupid if you ask me. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats
Brazil uses its own format called Pal-m. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats
With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. What format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to use in Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone? TIA SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats
N T S CNational Television System Committee Lines/Field 525/60 Horizontal Frequency 15.734 kHz Vertical Frequency 60 Hz Color Subcarrier Frequency 3.579545 MHz Video Bandwidth 4.2 MHz Sound Carrier 4.5 MHz The following countries use the NTSC system Antigua El Salvador Philippines Bahamas Ecuador Puerto Rico Barbados Guam Saipan Barbuda Guatemala Samoa Belize Haiti South Korea Bermuda Honduras Saint Kitts Bolivia Jamaica Saint Lucia Burma Japan Saint Vincent Cambodia Mexico Surinam Canada Midway Islands Taiwan Cayman Islands Netherland Antilles Tobago Chile Nicaragua Trinidad Colombia North Mariana Island United States Costa Rica Panama Venezuela Cuba Peru Virgin Islands - Original Message - From: SOFA To: the List Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. What format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to use in Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone? TIA SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats
Just in case that mail was corrupted, take a look at http://www.high-techproductions.com/ntsc.htm - Original Message - From: SOFA To: the List Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. What format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to use in Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone? TIA SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats The message was loud and clear, Richard, thank you very much. Is it safe to assume the rest of the world is PAL? Or are there other formats out there with which to contend? SOFA The system used in America Canada is called NTSC. Western Europe and Australia use a system called PAL, and Eastern Europe and France use SECAM. But I think SECAM is for VHS and I guess DVDs in France are in Pal format. Most recent VCRs in France are Pal/Secam compatible also. My VCR can do Pal Secam and It can read NTSC in Pal (but not record in NTSC). All DVD players over here can read PAL NTSC so it wouldn't bother me if you'd send me an NTSC DVD although my country (Switzerland) is in PAL. I assume a Japanese DVD player could read PAL as well as NTSC. Then there is the Zone/Region issue, simply burn your DVD with no region. My DVD player is region-free, as most of the units sold over here, and it may (or not) be the case for the DVD players sold in Japan, I don't know. So if you'd buy a DVD in the States and would send it to someone in Japan, he wouldn't be able to read it unless he has a region-free player. The US are region 1 NTSC I think Japan is Region 2 NTSC Most of Europe is region 2 PAL A. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.