Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-18 Thread Gabriel
You´re pretty much right on most of it, Richard. About pal-m however,
it´s not compatible with european Pal because pal-m was developed here
by the military as a way of protecting the brazilian tv industry (or
so they thought, i´m simplifying the story a lot here). It´s actually
a modification of pal, but we´re the only ones who use this format.
Nowadays most tvs here understand both pal-m and ntsc, but almost
every digital equipment around only work in ntsc, i think even tv
stations do all their stuff on ntsc and convert it only when they
broadcast.
Now guess what, the morons here want to do the same mistake again and
make our own digital tv system, instead of picking the same one most
people in the rest of the world will soon be using. Bah.

Gabriel

On 5/17/05, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am probably wrong, but I would say that M would probably be compatible
 with the UK PAL system. I have noticed on some old cordless home TV
 distribution systems, a switch which changes the PAL system transmitter
 between two different pal systems. To my recollection it didn't make a lot
 of difference, possibly the sound was different slightly, could be mistaken
 there though. That was some years ago and auto sensing circuitry would cover
 that issue now in even the cheapest DVD player. Most incompatibilities these
 days are deliberately built in to make companies rich, not because they are
 genuinely incompatible. Like region codes! 
 The original reason that pal secam and ntsc exist is all down to when
 countries went colour and what technology was available, cos you couldn't
 keep asking your public to buy new compatibleTV's every time there was a
 breakthrough. Yet you wanted more reliable transmission systems. NTSC used
 to be known as Never The Same Colour twice by its PAL competitors. 
  
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 Brazil uses its own format called Pal-m. Pretty stupid if you ask me.
 
 
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Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-17 Thread Gabriel
Brazil uses its own format called Pal-m. Pretty stupid if you ask me.


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[Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-09 Thread SOFA





With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. What 
format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to use in 
Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone?
TIA 
SOFA



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Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-09 Thread Richard







  
  

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  SOFA 
  
  To: the List 
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD 
  formats
  
  With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. 
  What format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to 
  use in Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone?
  TIA 
  SOFA
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Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-09 Thread Richard





Just in case that mail was corrupted, take a look 
at http://www.high-techproductions.com/ntsc.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  SOFA 
  
  To: the List 
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD 
  formats
  
  With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. 
  What format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to 
  use in Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone?
  TIA 
  SOFA
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Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-09 Thread arid2004
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] A Question of DVD
formats




The message was loud and clear, Richard,
thank you very much. Is it safe to assume the rest of the world is
PAL? Or are there other formats out there with which to
contend?
SOFA



The system used in America  Canada
is called NTSC. 
Western Europe and Australia use a
system called PAL, 

and Eastern Europe and France use SECAM.

But I think SECAM is
for VHS and I guess DVDs in France are in Pal format. Most recent VCRs
in France are Pal/Secam compatible also. My VCR can do Pal  Secam
and It can read NTSC in Pal (but not record in NTSC).
All DVD players over
here can read PAL  NTSC so it wouldn't bother me if you'd send me
an NTSC DVD although my country (Switzerland) is in PAL.
I assume a Japanese
DVD player could read PAL as well as NTSC.

Then there is the
Zone/Region issue, simply burn your DVD with no region.
My DVD player is
region-free, as most of the units sold over here, and it may (or not)
be the case for the DVD players sold in Japan, I don't
know.
So if you'd buy a
DVD in the States and would send it to someone in Japan, he wouldn't
be able to read it unless he has a region-free player.

The US are region 1
NTSC
I think Japan is
Region 2 NTSC
Most of Europe is
region 2 PAL

A.



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