Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Yeah! That's exactly itI don't normally get to mail stuff to say Bolivia which I recently did...It gets some smiles at my little local post office, that'sfor sure! Plus a little personal contact with distant and exotic lands and friendly people. - Original Message - From: abxer3p To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I know it's slower for those farther down the list, but I agree with Richard. It hasn't been more than 2-3 bucks for me to mail overseas, and it's kind of fun to see something from Poland, Croatia, Sao Paolo, or the isles arrive. Joseph - Original Message - From: Richard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I agree, splitting makes for confusion searching and remembering what's due to arrive...They get around faster than they did IMHO now than they did under the email bidding system. Plus it sort of puts a virtual wallacross the world, it's friendlier when you don't know where you are sending next..And its only a few dollars more after all! Or are we only in it for themoney? LOL. - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Yes I agree!! Some unique stamps to show my kids as well. They think it's cool what I do herewith the trading and the vineing and all. Thanks folks! ChrisRichard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah! That's exactly itI don't normally get to mail stuff to say Bolivia which I recently did...It gets some smiles at my little local post office, that'sfor sure! Plus a little personal contact with distant and exotic lands and friendly people. - Original Message - From: abxer3p To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I know it's slower for those farther down the list, but I agree with Richard. It hasn't been more than 2-3 bucks for me to mail overseas, and it's kind of fun to see something from Poland, Croatia, Sao Paolo, or the isles arrive. Joseph - Original Message - From: Richard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I agree, splitting makes for confusion searching and remembering what's due to arrive...They get around faster than they did IMHO now than they did under the email bidding system. Plus it sort of puts a virtual wallacross the world, it's friendlier when you don't know where you are sending next..And its only a few dollars more after all! Or are we only in it for themoney? LOL. - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. "Music is The Best!" Frank Zappa Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS F
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I'm getting the feeling that it's not the US postal rates with which viners have a problem, it's the rates abroad... Remember Americans, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over... SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Yes I agree!! Some unique stamps to show my kids as well. They think it's cool what I do herewith the trading and the vineing and all. Thanks folks! ChrisRichard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah! That's exactly itI don't normally get to mail stuff to say Bolivia which I recently did...It gets some smiles at my little local post office, that'sfor sure! Plus a little personal contact with distant and exotic lands and friendly people. - Original Message - From: abxer3p To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I know it's slower for those farther down the list, but I agree with Richard. It hasn't been more than 2-3 bucks for me to mail overseas, and it's kind of fun to see something from Poland, Croatia, Sao Paolo, or the isles arrive. Joseph - Original Message - From: Richard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I agree, splitting makes for confusion searching and remembering what's due to arrive...They get around faster than they did IMHO now than they did under the email bidding system. Plus it sort of puts a virtual wallacross the world, it's friendlier when you don't know where you are sending next..And its only a few dollars more after all! Or are we only in it for themoney? LOL. - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick
RE: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Wish I would have thought of that before I started the vine on its way. I didnt realize this would be so popular. I did notice the crazy globe hoping coming but I figured it was just unavoidable with the new system. As Chris has already sent a set to Europe I volunteer to send out a second US vine. To avoid confusion Ill post messages for both legs of the vine clearly marking them as US and Euro-UK. I think I can separate out the existing list of viners. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:42 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make itgeographicallysensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I've got discs marked 13/11/70 early and late...are mine wrongly dated or were there two shows on the 13th as well ? The early show starts with Jam(Grace Slick onstage) and the late with something entitled Have Gun Will Travel. Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I've just checked a number (well three) FZ gig lists and they all suggest these discs come from 13/11/70. Although they also confirm that two shows were also performed on 14/11/70 but with no info available. Well worth getting though as sound is very good. As for the correct date 13th or 14th perhaps we'll never know for sure ? Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it)Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible.Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently.CrisOn 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote:Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing.Whatever...SOFA- Original Message -From: mr. and mrs. skullTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AMSubject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in.i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well...I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course).As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves...My 2 cents,SOFA - Original Message -From: chrisTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AMSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LISTWell Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now.Mr SOFA, could you help us out here?ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
My copy of the late show is dated 14th and has the following as the first track. Is this the same show? 01. Kip Cohen IntroPalladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:47 pm, Glen Young wrote: I've got discs marked 13/11/70 early and late...are mine wrongly dated or were there two shows on the 13th as well ? The early show starts with Jam(Grace Slick onstage) and the late with something entitled Have Gun Will Travel. Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
What a coincidence! I was wrong back in 76! But then again... I could be wrong about that. :o) Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 5:34 pm, Glen Young wrote: SOFA says there is confusion over the exact date but the gig lists also mention two shows on the 14th as confirmed but with no set lists..my guess is that 13/11/70 is correct. But I could be wrong...I have been before you knowback in the Summer of 76 was the last time ;- Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Sounds good to me, case by case and what makes sense. As far as searching, as long as both Europe and US vines are in the same VO heading, that shouldn't be a problem. Scott --- SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
that sounds reasonable - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make itgeographicallysensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
if u put Europe, or USA in the header to start with, and continue it that way for each, then searching will be easy...But will it happen?..lol - Original Message - From: Scott Burnett To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Sounds good to me, case by case and what makes sense. As far as searching, as long as both Europeand US vines are in the same VO heading, that shouldn't be a problem.Scott--- SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PRO
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
It should even itself out, A vine that starts in the US would spend a bit of time Ping Ponging* across the States before heading out to the rest of the world.Like wise one starting over this side would Pong Ping* around Europe before heading Stateside.Cris* These are technical terms I learnt back in 1976... but I could be wrong. :-/On 29 Jun 2005, at 6:48 pm, Scott Burnett wrote:Sounds good to me, case by case and what makes sense. As far as searching, as long as both Europeand US vines are in the same VO heading, that shouldn't be a problem.Scott--- SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me...I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count?SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. (say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pondhoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching forthem easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two(2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And wejust send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is travelingin. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioneddisregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned inthis thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine willend up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easierto search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs(with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make therounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US NickUllmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decidefor themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.-- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yah
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
So what did you do with 52 '66 Chevy's? : P SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Hey SOF! I graduated in 76 as well,with my graduation money I bought...a 66 chevy and a new Zappa LP every week that summer,sometimes 2!! ChrisSOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make itgeographicallysensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I know it's slower for those farther down the list, but I agree with Richard. It hasn't been more than 2-3 bucks for me to mail overseas, and it's kind of fun to see something from Poland, Croatia, Sao Paolo, or the isles arrive. Joseph - Original Message - From: Richard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I agree, splitting makes for confusion searching and remembering what's due to arrive...They get around faster than they did IMHO now than they did under the email bidding system. Plus it sort of puts a virtual wallacross the world, it's friendlier when you don't know where you are sending next..And its only a few dollars more after all! Or are we only in it for themoney? LOL. - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
