[zbmethod] Re: I'm definitely in for the ride

2005-12-11 Thread Mike Bennett
I've been taking a lot of time off lately from ZB to work on the Roux method and various improvements I have ideas for. This is helping my ZB in three ways: First, when I solve for extended periods of time and then switch to COLL/ZB, it forces me to go slower on my F2L, because I'm not as used

[zbmethod] Re: I'm definitely in for the ride

2005-12-11 Thread Mike Bennett
--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, Mike Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Roux, blah. That's not to say I'm quitting. I'm just learning and using two methods at the same time, instead of only normal ZB. It's very similar to using opposite color solving. There are

Re: [zbmethod] Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread Gilles van den Peereboom
Hello, Even though I stopped learning ZB a few weeks ago, I'm still interested in that extension. I'm kind of fed up with learning an huge amount of algorithms without always understanding what I do. But I'm really interested in finding new ones either by myself or with the help of a computer.

[zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread cmhardw
Hey Gilles, That would be awesome thank you! I'm also going to start searching and including all the search lists for the algs for others to search for ones they like too. Here is the biggest problem. We all have different styles. I vastly prefer RULM to anything else, and will often choose a

Re: [zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread Gilles van den Peereboom
Hello :-) I think a database should be enough for the storage of our work. However we might want to have a more complete site so that it's clearer and easier to read. But let's do the first things first. If nobody minds, I'd like to start with the Double-Sune case without any corners to swap

[zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread Doug Lee
What do you mean by double-Sune? Are you refering to the H1 cases? I already have those. The one where there is no EP is my slowest, feel free to work on that one, it's the only non-trivial one there I think, the ohter's are easy/fast. Work on the other H-Orientation cases, I don't think many

[zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread cmhardw
Chris, you could go through all of your T-Orintation algs and list a time for them. I know that I use a slightly different set of algs than you, perhaps some of mine are faster. Hey Doug, I agree I think that will be an excellent starting point. I'm going to take some averages for each alg

[zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread cmhardw
Hey everyone, Here are the stats of my T orientation case 1 algs (no corner perm) The cases are as: T1-1: F' U' F U' F' U2 F B U B' U B U2 B' average: 2.48 times: 02.81, 02.24, (02.99), 02.98, 02.42, 02.43, 02.42, 02.18, 02.23, 02.14, (02.07), 02.92 T1-2: R U2 R2 U R' U R' U R' U R U2 R2 U' R2

Re: [zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread Gilles van den Peereboom
OK I'm definitely not sure which case you are talking about : H1 with no EP. Could you link me an image ? (and where could I have the full name list so that I understand what your talking about :p) Thx, Gilles.2005/12/12, cmhardw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey everyone, Here are the stats of my T

[zbmethod] Re: Ok... let's get serious about this method of ours

2005-12-11 Thread cmhardw
Hey Gilles, The alg I list is the one I was performing (without the finger trick notation). Do the inverse of the alg to setup the case. I was doing all twelve cases from this page. http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/zbllt1.html Sorry if I didn't label them very well. Chris --- In