Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
But does make it less likely to be fixed.
2012/2/13 AndreK andre.kjellst...@gmail.com
reducing the importance of the bug does not make it less annoying.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
On Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM, Bernhard 646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
recent files.
As per you how shall it be done? I know the present way has shortcomings.
Please provide a solution if available. It will be surely implemented
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Title:
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
The program locate/slocate keeps a database of all files so that
searching is quick, for example.
2011/10/16 Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा manishsi...@ubuntu.com:
On Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM, Bernhard 646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
recent files.
As per you how shall it be done? I know the present way has shortcomings.
Please provide a solution if available. It will be surely implemented
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Title:
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
You can get it from lp:activity-log-manager (trunk)
it works like charm here. Can you test it?
make sure you backup your zeitgeist directory cp ~/.local/share/zeitgeist
~/.local/share/zeitgeist-backup
give us feedback on #zeitgeist so we can finish this.
Cheers
Seif
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Seif, what happened to the dig up the past button you mentioned
further up? Is this coming? I remember seeing a mock-up screenshot
somewhere, but I don't have it in activity-log-manager 0.8.0 from the
zeitgeist ppa.
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Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Status in Unity 2D:
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Status in Unity Files Lens:
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Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
access to the folder would then be a benefit. The Files Folders lens
could be very useful to easily retrieve folder just by typing part of
the name.
Yes! Why isn't there a hotkey to search only folders...
I want to do this every day.
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Status in Unity:
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Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
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Triaged
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Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Which app do u use to edit the files in that folder ?
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:58 PM, vanadium 646...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:
There is more going on than the file lens only seeing recent files. I
have a project folder 6 levels deep under / which I use regularly, and
the folder itself *never* showed up in the files lens. To me, the file
lens is completely useless in its current state.
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The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Very good idea. Maybe a button saying dig up the past could be a good
start :)
Thanks for the idea
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
So, will you put this into activity-log-manager, Seif?
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Status in Unity Files Place:
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Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
BTW just for you info there is no perfect solution right now. Even Tracker
that crawls your desktop doesn't find anything that is NOT in the
following folders:
- Desktop
- Documents
- Downloads
- Music
- Public
- Pictures Templates
- Videos
While this sounds good alot of files do not reside there. So currently there
is no perfect solution. I am personally working on a hybrid search extension
that allows you to search Tracker + Zeitgeist results. Problem here is the
speed of the search in Tracker do a technical decision as well as the merge
of search results.
I think removing a functionality because its not working properly is a bad
idea. Because it works for the default and normal users. Anyone who uses the
default Ubuntu apps doesnt have problems finding his stuff since once you
touch the file with a standard Ubuntu app it will be covered by Zeitgeist.
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM, vanadium
646...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote:
The issue is that the current implementation of files and folders is
unacceptable. It is unacceptable that it does not show up the files the
user knows are out there. This effectively breaks the function from the
perspective of the user. Thus, this issue should be corrected with the
highest priority, or the function should be removed if it cannot be
technically implemented in a satisfactory way.
Additional problem: inconsistency. Applications finds all applications
on the computer, and even Applications *not* on the computer. Files and
Folders on the other hand, does not even find several the user's own
files that are on the local computer.
Currently, this functions as an adequate Recent documents tool. Rename
it to Recent documents and the current issue is solved. Then, a Files
and folders lens could be a feature request for unity.
Extending ZG with a new range of data providers does not seem like a
priority right know, except if aims to make sure that at least, a user
can retrieve his files. Let the rest follow once this fundamental flaw
is solved.
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
It can add a location for you to index but it gets more and more expensive.
Again I touching mean you do something with the file (open/close/modify). I
am working on a hybrid solution as i said. Sadly if you replace Zeitgeist
you also get drawbacks like sorting, constant directory monitoring (very
expensive over time) ans more, less sorting options, slower searching
(sqlite searches are too slow as compared to xapian powered ones).
So the only solution is either to improve the current of find a hybrid. But
replacing with a new solution will break things more...
:(
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
So, who's up to writing a script that touches each file in a desired
directory? :-P this, as well as my comment #29, would neatly circumvent this
problem, no?
Also, what exactly does touching mean? I can neatly touch all files on my
harddisk if I let baobab (the disk usage analyzer) run over it, but that
won't work, will it? What would the cheapest (performance-wise) application
be to do this?
btw, Seif, are you sure about this location limitation for tracker? It's
been a while since I last used it, but I seem to remember that I could
add user-chosen locations with one visit to preferences, to be indexed
by tracker.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I am writing a little one time process then crawl your folders and emits an
open event to zeitgeist... :)
Thanks for the idea
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Just to be clear, I don't want to replace ZG, I didn't even intend to
pull tracker into this (it was just meant as a technology reference, I
shouldn't have mentioned it at all maybe). I'm just looking for a
feasible solution to enable users to be able to find all files they
would most probably search for, using unity. Seeing that this feature is
powered by ZG, I see 3 alternatives:
a) manually open all files, or wait until user has interacted with all
files without her being able to use unity search for said interaction in
the meantime (this is the status now, and I think we all agree it's not
very enticing).
b) Add an option to ZG to point to some directory (e.g. stuff in the users'
extra data partition), whose contents will then be indexed _once_ by ZG.
(Comment #29) This is basically an automated version of a), something like a
fast-forward button.
The state of the index should then be not much worse than after normal
usage for a long time, assuming the user will stumble over most of the files
in said directory during normal usage, over time. Wildcard exceptions could
be added to minimize cruft being added to the db (e.g. *~ files)
Is this a workable idea? If not, why? Are there negative performance
impacts on ZG and/or unity-place-files I don't see?
Pro: tracker or similar technology does not have to be involved.
c) Write a script which, when pointed to a directory, accesses all the
files sequentially, thus adding them to the ZG index as desired by the
user. (comment #31) Admittedly the most hackish workaround, and just
saves you the tedium of opening and closing files for a day or so, to be
able to find them with unity-place-files.
To me at least, b) sounds reasonable. thoughts? alternatives?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I am on it already :)
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM, KarlRelton
karllinuxtest.rel...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wrt to comment #23, I remember over a year ago in blog-posts or wherever
some communication between Seif of Zeitgeist fame and the Tracker people
about integration/linking together. There was talk of one of them
pushing events to the other.
Certainly if Tracker pushed an event to Zeitgeist everytime it
'discovered' a new file, that would certainly help Zeitgeist to be aware
of alot more of the user's filesystem. If the user is using Tracker,
then resource-wise the user would be no worse off, since Tracker is
already doing the crawling monitoring anyway.
However, of course Tracker itself is configured by the user to NOT crawl
their whole filesystem, so for some users it is arguably still
incomplete (though it would be good enough for my own uses).
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
There is a difference between Tracker and Zeitgeist:
Tracker indexes stuff in the XDG directories only per default which means it
will only index stuff in Music, Documents, etc...
It will not cover a Directory Foo or anything in it. (it makes optimal for
people with lots of files in the default directories)
Zeitgeist indexes stuff you touch. Which means it does not index stuff you
never interacted with (it makes it optimal for fresh installs). Plus
Zeitgeist allows you to sort through receny, frequency, relevancy and
resemblance to the search string.
I am creating a zeitgeist extension that if Tracker is installed it will ask
Tracker for results and attach them to the zeitgeist results and return them
to the client. We have a working prototype. I am not happy with the solution
but its fast enough...
Stay tuned.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
wrt to tracker: I actually didn't want to push this discussion towards
tracker/beagle integration itself, I just wanted to point out that
obviously, indexing the relevant files _and their contents_ is already
possible and reasonable performance-wise. Consequently, I don't think it
should be too much of a performance hog to maintain a proper index
(without file's contents, too boot) for search in ZG; that's what the
tracker/beagle people have been doing for years, after all.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
On 29/09/10 13:27, KarlRelton wrote:
For the record, what are the 'negative user effects of updatedb and
friends'?
Why is my system like treacle?
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
RIght, Mikkel, in the latter category we might conceive a smart bot
which nosies through your data very occasionally (and in a way we
believe will minimise the negative user effects of updatedb and friends)
and lets ZG know about interesting stuff.
Mark
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Status in Unity: Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources: In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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