[Zen] Scholarly approach(to Chris/list)

2011-02-06 Thread Mel
I like that...that was often the Zen I often spoke of in the past. Thank you   ..'to live so that I'm tired at night and ready for sleep'...That reminds me of a passage somewhere where it says something like...'live to the full as if your whole hair is on fire'..   Thank you again Chris   Buddha

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2011-02-06 Thread ChrisAustinLane
Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Feb 5, 2011, at 20:21, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Somehow getting tired and feeling sleepy is not exactly the same to me. I don't know how to explain it. I would say tired is feeling exhausted, while sleepy is

[Zen] Scholarly approach

2011-02-05 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Good Morning To You, As a scientist or a scholar, the training is to remain absolutely objective, be an observer and never contaminate the fact in front of us with our own interpretation or subjective filtering. This is well respected and understood. As a Chan practitioner, however, the

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2011-02-05 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning To You, As a scientist or a scholar, the training is to remain absolutely objective, be an observer and never contaminate the fact in front of us with our own interpretation or subjective

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2011-02-05 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Chris, I do understand. Thank you for the explanation. I meant it in a funny way. Science is part of the universe also. When I said that I don't get tired, I mean I recover faster than before. It does not mean I don't need to sleep. Somehow getting tired and feeling sleepy is not