Re: [Zen] Note

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
Anthony:   True...Very funnyhehehe!!!   Mayka --- On Thu, 7/10/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg Subject: Re: [Zen] Note To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 7 October, 2010, 23:26   Mayka,   It is OK that you can strike a bell.

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello there;   I'm familiar with koans from the zen soto tradition.  I'm opened to hear anything that any members have to say about this subject.  Though have to say from begining that my interest here is about the insight experience such of such koan gives to one.  I understand that insight

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
I meant in previous post: I am not familiar with soto zen koans. --- On Fri, 8/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] New member. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 8 October, 2010, 9:37   Hello

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
Thanks Jody.  Doesn't the Soto tradition uses koans?.   Should be understood them that slaps the lady received in the koan given,  were defectuos because nobody can awake anybody else except for oneselves?   Mayka     --- On Fri, 8/10/10, Jody W. Ianuzzi j...@thewhitehats.com wrote: From: Jody

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
There are koans used in Soto training, but differently from Rinzai - more to hone the understanding of advanced students than to prod a student towards an initial experience of non-duality. Bill! describes the Rinzai training, where I have heard Mu or some other intro koan is used to move the

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Anthony Wu
Jody/Mayka,   Soto zen is otherwise called zombie zen. A zombie doesn't talk, let alone create koans.   Renzai should read Rinzai.   Anthony --- On Sat, 9/10/10, Jody W. Ianuzzi j...@thewhitehats.com wrote: From: Jody W. Ianuzzi j...@thewhitehats.com Subject: RE: [Zen] New member. To:

Re: [Zen] What Mind

2010-10-08 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Anthony, Thank you for your support. Words, including mine, are just forms. There is no perfection. Words are used primarily as a jolt to wake up our heart from our delusional mind. Please, as you said, shut up. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Anthony Wu
Chris,   Any zen practice can be a mixture of different lineages. Now the distinction between Soto and Rinzai is blurred. So a zombie can talk, especially after a brain transplant and being equipped with Microsoft Windows 7.   Master Fronthorn (Maezumi Roshi) was a good friend of Seung Sahn.

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Jody W. Ianuzzi
Hello Anthony, Thank you. JODY Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Dogen (the founder of Soto) quotes a number of well known koans in Shobogenzo. There are no hard and fast lines between any pieces of reality. --Chris On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Chris, Any zen practice can be a mixture of different lineages. Now