Re: [Zen] ( Bet With Buddha 西遊記 - YouTube

2013-02-06 Thread Merle Lester
i thought so edgar...thanks... where have you been lately?..snowed under?..cheers merle   Great quote Merle! Edgar On Feb 5, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Merle Lester wrote:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPqm6ePcOMMfeature=endscreen merle those who know  that enough is

RE: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread uerusuboyo
Joe, br/br/Is this not what I wrote?br/br/Mikebr/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhonebr/

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Carl
I don't believe I need to prove anything here, it's the same kind of question that Zen should be proved. If what I said makes some sense good, obviously it did not to you so I would suggest you ignore it. (Unless of course you wish to impose some Zen orthodoxy here, I'm not interested in such

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Carl, Now, now, don't go off all testy, pls. The proof I suggest that would be needed is something I present intellectually as a philosophical challenge, and as a challenge to the experience of a practitioner, not a personal challenge. It's not a test. Just a topic for forum discussion, if

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Oops, sorry, Carl, The first part of my post is meant for Iain, not you. Sorry, Iain! My confusion. Too many proofs. Carl, the part of my post relevant to you is re-quoted, below, and edited. --Joe Carl, Now, now, don't go off all testy, pls. I don't ask for a proof of the

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Carl
As I said I'm not interested in these games, so this subject is closed on my part. If you were genuinely interested in the subject, you would not have this approach of attempting to discredit it publicly and get the group back to discussing your orthodox views of Zen (that you have displayed in

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Carl, Your free choice. I'd hoped you'd add to your previous information. --Joe Carl wrote: As I said I'm not interested in these games, so this subject is closed on my part. If you were genuinely interested in the subject, you would not have this approach of attempting to discredit it

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
...and, Carl, Heterodoxy is fine by me, too. Have at it if that is your ken. I only write about Zen as I know it, which is Zen as it is practiced, and realized. I'm a practitioner. You too? Mostly, I speak about practice and its upshot, and not much about theory. But I'm game for theory,

RE: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread uerusuboyo
Carl,br/br/Paranoid much?br/br/Mike (or is it?...)br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhonebr/

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Mike, Call yourself an 'Illuminati' (or 'Illuminatus', singular), whether true or not, ...and I may feel reason to doubt you (as such). But, please, please!, don't let this doubt of mine overpower your right and ability to let me have it, truthfully, between the eyes. Keep off other areas,

Re: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
I doubt there are really 400 readers for our energetic debates here. I bet nost of the lurkers are either no mail or else let it pile up unread in numberless email boxes. Thanks, --Chris 301-270-6524 On Feb 6, 2013 2:09 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote: ...and, Carl, Heterodoxy is

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Howdy, Chris, Be that as dismay... . ;-) --Joe --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: I doubt there are really 400 readers for our energetic debates here. I bet nost of the lurkers are either no mail or else let it pile up unread in numberless email boxes. Thanks,

Re: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread uerusuboyo
Chris,br/br/I hope so. We do less damage that way.br/br/Mikebr/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhonebr/

RE: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread uerusuboyo
br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhonebr/

Re: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Snort. I have to agree. Our mission is of entertainment not saving sentient beings. Thanks, --Chris 301-270-6524 On Feb 6, 2013 7:16 PM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Chris, I hope so. We do less damage that way. Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone -- *

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Mike, Just wait a minute; wait a MINUTE!! A Minute? The more damage, the better. No? Or was I just born in some other strange universe? I hope not. I like this Zen-Practice universe jus' fine. I repeat, jus' fine. Fine. Hoping you and yours are well, --Joe --- In

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Now, now, Mike. Let's not make too light of something like Jewry. While I was at Columbia in New York City in College during 1970-74, many campus announcements of presentations, etc., had to do with Jewry, but my eyes always first interpreted: Jewelry. My error!!, Just as, later, some

[Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Joe
Moik (Mike), As a mathematician, it's been embarrassing to me to see the progression of lovely mathematical icons cut into the cereal grains of the UK, and citizens taking the designs as odd, and as if of far-out origin. Who-dunnit? It's clear that 100% of the designs are due to current-day

[Zen] Our Planet

2013-02-06 Thread Merle Lester
          -     Sobering and heart-wrenching. The title of the video is misleading. It doesn't hold the impact of the message one is about to see. http://www.youtube.com/embed/nGeXdv-uPaw

Re: [Zen] Acting against seeming inevitability -- WAS: Re: war criminals

2013-02-06 Thread Merle Lester
 folks : let's not get too up ourselves..the greatest zen practitioners are those who know silence is golden..merle   Mike, Yes, the way some people talk sometimes, you'd think Zen has nothing to do with ANYTHING... which is not the case (I don't mean you, Mike!). Some say that precepts

Re: [Zen] ( Bet With Buddha 西�記 - YouTube

2013-02-06 Thread Merle Lester
 it's not always about the dollar joe!..merle   Edgar, Not *too* bad... . Old Lao obviously was not the Tax Man. And if he had been, he would have been fired. ;-) --Joe Edgar Owen wrote: Great quote Merle! Merle Lester wrote: those who know that enough is enough will