Re: [Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-16 Thread donald hwong
balancing act, we called it Withered Chan. Meditate and don't think. JMJM Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: donald hwong Contentment is not satisfaction and not joy. Contentment is a state of want-nothing. if we could put our best foot forward to let go our reaction

Re: [Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-15 Thread donald hwong
the future causes. JMJM Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: donald hwong if we could put our best foot forward to let go our reaction to the effects of all existing forms, not be affected by it, just accept as is, we end our suffering. Putting our best foot forward

Re: [Zen] Stimulation

2007-04-03 Thread donald hwong
Hi Bill, Bored? How is Thailand? I will be flying to Taiwan and China and Hong Kong in three weeks... Toward the end of Buddha's life, he transmitted heart to heart the life force and wisdom without words or formalities to Kasyapa. BodhiDharma brought that to China and slowly evolved

Re: [Zen] Life is a Dream

2007-02-07 Thread donald hwong
Now, now, what if I answer this Spanish post with some Chinese ones Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Al: Thank you for your feedback. Please read my message to Bill and so I save myself of written again. With respect Mayka --- In

[Zen] My Tradition

2007-02-07 Thread donald hwong
Hi Jennifer, You have asked where, what, how about Donald. Since Fudo Sensei posted that he is more Asian than others. The following is about me. I was born in Shanghai, raised in Taiwan, Catholic high schooled in Japan, EE at Berkeley in the 60s. with Buddhist Grandma, Protestan Father. I

RE: [Zen] Solemn friends - numbness

2007-01-30 Thread donald hwong
Hi Allen, I recall that you have practiced martial arts before. If so, try to focus your Chi on the areas that are numb or in pain. You shall recover sooner from their blockage. In the Chan sense, when you focus on the Chi, you are in essence by-passing your ego, you shall also feel less

Re: [Zen] Soto - not soho

2007-01-30 Thread donald hwong
Just to clarify After the Sixth Patriarch in China, Five Schools evolved, Ling-ji(RinZai in Japanese), Chao-Dong(Soto in Japanese), Fa-Yen, Wei-Yang, Yung-Men. The last three disappeared through out the years. Only Rinzai and Soto remained in China. RinZai and Soto went to Japan through

Re: [Zen] Greetings

2007-01-24 Thread donald hwong
*bow* to you from another Shao Lin Chan practitioner. As you know, Communist dispersed all the monks in Shao Lin except the martial art practitioners. Fortunately, the Shao Lin Sitting Chan flurished in Taiwan. Several years ago, my Master from Taiwan was invited to teach in Shao Lin of

Re: [Zen] Negative Emotions and Negative Habit Energies

2007-01-22 Thread donald hwong
Dear Mayka, I sense from your first post, that you were looking for practices that helps and not theories or logic. I understand. As you know there are many school for Zen. I can only share with you what I was taught and experienced in along with many other practitioners. In our school, we

Re: [Zen] A white lotus flower to everyone

2007-01-21 Thread donald hwong
Interesting comment and observation. Can you share with us your practice/experience? Namaste, Donald Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Maria Mayka and have been a practicioner of zen for several years. The only zen Master Teacher I

Re: [Zen] Belly Breathing.

2007-01-16 Thread donald hwong
and observing? I really do like this practice, but I let my attention rest on this chakra and so I would like to know if I am doing it wrong. Peace, Allen donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen, Every question of yours gives me reasons to update the website. So please, do ask. Our site

Re: [Zen] Belly Breathing.

2007-01-14 Thread donald hwong
Bill is not wrong. That is if after we cleansed our body and go on our own journey. Everything becomes a just scenary. dkotschessa is also not wrong. Space out could happen when the body is filled with karmic influences, we called dirty chi, or also called karmic influence or simply just

RE: [Zen] New Member. New Thread on Meditation.

2007-01-10 Thread donald hwong
Allen, Every school is different in practice, though short term effectiveness are different, similar benefits in the long run nevertheless. I can only speak of the practice that I am familiar with. Here is the link to my school for your reference. http://www.heartzen.org We are Chan from

RE: [Zen] New Member. New Thread on Meditation.

2007-01-10 Thread donald hwong
. Would you please elaborate a little more on this practice so I can understand what it is talking about a little better. Again thank you very much. Peace, Allen donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen, Every school is different in practice, though short term effectiveness

RE: [Zen] Satanic Zen Understanding?

2007-01-08 Thread donald hwong
Happy New Year To You Bill, Al and everyone, As per your call, following is a post related to understanding the nature of things. Too often, we made judgement based what we saw, encountered or heard. We did so because we received these physical messages through our senses. Too often, we

RE: [Zen] Compassion

2006-12-11 Thread donald hwong
Good Day Bill, It is true that not much of the Chinese Chan had a chance to be introduced to the West, because Communist China destroy most of the resources since 1945. Taiwan was poor until about 20 years ago. Spiritual concerns grow mostly in the 80's in Taiwan. I signed up to around 5

RE: [Zen] Definition of Dignity and Morality - Buddhist Point of View

2006-12-02 Thread donald hwong
Giant hats-off to you, Bill. (Is this English correct?? Is it hat off or hats off? With or without dash? Honestly?) Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perplexed: Donald posted a very good reply to your questions from a Buddhist

[Zen] Dalai Lama At The U of Buffalo

2006-11-17 Thread donald hwong
In case you are interested. It is about two hours long. http://www.buffalo.edu/dalai_lama/video.html?6 I thank Billy, one of our practitioners at Univ of Buffalo, to forward this to my attention. Donald - Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows.

Re: [Zen] Re: Cause Effect

2006-11-08 Thread donald hwong
Tony,As always, they are one of the same. There is no duality. Detachment is to embrace life. This detachment is to detach from illusions and false forms, seeing the true nature of things in order to enjoy life.Sixth Patriarch said, "Nothing ever occurred. No need to bear the suffering."Tony

[Zen] New Movie ......

2006-09-12 Thread donald hwong
One practitioner brought to my attention of this new movie ...http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/jesuscamp/trailer/All Bin Laden needs to do, is to change the word, "Jesus" into "Mohammad", he could just use it as it.Interesting All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email

[Zen] True Monet

2006-09-11 Thread donald hwong
Hi, While in San Francisco last weekend, I visited Legend of Honor Museum and saw about 30-40 Monet's master pieces from 1876-1925. I came away with the following absorption. He painted with his eyes at the beginning -- as is with detail. Then he painted with his mind -- each one had a

Re: [Zen] Re: Is religion the problem?

2006-09-11 Thread donald hwong
This is at least very true in Taiwan, where the religion of Buddhism is very influencial.kahtychen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and then there's: http://mambo.shambhalasun.com/index.php?option=contenttask=viewid=2903Itemid=247 -- ~say beautiful things to yourself~

[Zen] Is religion the problem?

2006-09-09 Thread donald hwong
Ladies and Gentlemen,Every since I supplement Bill's statement by saying something like, "all words and concepts are irrelevant to our practice, including this discussion group." This place became quiet. Hmmm, that is no fun. It is time to mess up minds again. Afterall, Confucious said,

Re: [Zen] Re: Spirituality - Just Sit

2006-08-21 Thread donald hwong
Hi John,Thank you for your detailed response.What is IRL?Donald - I rather be just Donald. PS. JMJM bears heavy responsibility for carrying the karma of other sentient beings. Besides, it is very difficult to maintain an "integrated session" between a teacher and students. Meaning, teacher is

RE: [Zen] Introduction

2006-08-02 Thread donald hwong
I love this forum. It is really fun. Every post is direct. There is no pretense. Yet every post is correct. And every post shows the notions of the mind, sentiment of the poster. So here I go. Jumping into the pool.If I was Rob, I would ask, what is "competent"? How would I know I would be save

RE: [Zen] Ven Bhante Vimalaramsi: Without this jhana practice becomes very difficult

2006-07-25 Thread donald hwong
oned that "ignorance" is the only cause of unhappiness.After they are on board, then we can yell or beat them up like Rinzai. At that time, I will ask Bill to help out. Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:18 PM Donald Hwong wrote: Good mor

[Zen] Our Body

2006-06-27 Thread donald hwong
Good morning everyone,In 1700 BC, Vedanta taught that the Bhrama is the "Supreme Spirit or Ultimate Reality" and through Maya, like measurement and causation, actualized the universe. The four practices recommaned to wake up through the seven consciousness are Bhakti Yoga, Jnana Yoga, Raja

[Zen] One again

2006-06-23 Thread donald hwong
Hi All,It is so enjoyable to observe the ripple when a stone is tossed into the pond. Namaste to you all.Either we are attached to "NOT having a definition for Zen", or "having a definition for Zen" are both dualistic. Similarly, when we are attached to the practice we familiar as "Zazen",

RE: [Zen] Paint-by-numbers (was 7th ..., related to One ...)

2006-06-23 Thread donald hwong
Association. We have about 50 meditation centers in Taiwan. A few do speak English. The largest one can sit 2,200 people.We are about to launch an English website, when that is ready, I will notify you.Namaste,DonaldBill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, June 22 donald

RE: [Zen] Zen Is One, two, three ...

2006-06-22 Thread donald hwong
?Thank you for your patience and support and this discussion stream. A deep bowl to you.JMJM++Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, June 21 donald hwong (JMJM) wrote: [...introductory portion snipped...] [JMJM...]Is there a disconnect in the teachings

RE: [Zen] Zen Is One, two, three ...

2006-06-22 Thread donald hwong
ll Zen.These are all menifestation of Zen. Branches of the tree and not its life force.To be more "wordly correct", Zen is all. How is that?Thank you for your patience and support and this discussion stream. A deep bowl to you.JMJM++Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On W

RE: [Zen] Zen Is One.

2006-06-20 Thread donald hwong
Goog Morning Bill,Let us try with more familiar terms...Focus on the present moment enables us to put down our mind and its derivatives, just observe every moment independent of the previous. Let the moment be the teacher.Like what the Six Patriarch said in his "Tan Jing", "No notion means

RE: [Zen] Zen Is One.

2006-06-19 Thread donald hwong
Good Morning Bill,I am sorry that I have lost you. It is due to my haste. As human, my I excuse my haste by stating that it was Father's Day? I apologize. My previous posts are to be read as a cloud, just absorb it without dive into it to find out its humidity, temperature, formation.Let me try

RE: [Zen] 7th Anniversary of the Zen Forum

2006-06-18 Thread donald hwong
n sync the carrier.Be Joyous,JMJMBill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, June 17 donald hwong (JMJM) wrote: If so I disagree. So...I don't completely resonate with I don't like the pretentiousness of it.a definition is, I think, misleading. This is another '

RE: [Zen] 7th Anniversary of the Zen Forum

2006-06-17 Thread donald hwong
Good Morning Bill,Now we have a common ground, "Zen is the life force and wisdom of the universe." Therefore, it can not be described, defined, talked, communicated by words, nor can it be comprehend by mind. It can only be connected to it with our Buddha nature. Zen is the one, which menifest

RE: [Zen] 7th Anniversary of the Zen Forum

2006-06-16 Thread donald hwong
g smile to you all,JMJMBill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, June 16 donald hwong wrote: Hey! A real posting! Thanks Donald. I'm in your debt. My high-speed response follows: With Palms together, With palms spread out over my keyboard, Zen is defined as the u

Re: [Zen] 7th Anniversary of the Zen Forum

2006-06-15 Thread donald hwong
With Palms together,Zen is defined as the universal life force and wisdom. It emcompasses all. Once we had an opinion, we have foresaken the ones with opposite opinion. Then we are not in sync with Zen, we are in sync only with our mind.Karma of this world distributes, we can not remain

Re: [Zen] Re: Is there an objective?

2006-05-16 Thread donald hwong
If no one else has any other input, then next question - what is real or truth? Namaste, Donald dkotschessa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Bill for letting me feel comfortable and welcomed. My question

RE: [Zen] Re: Is there an objective?

2006-05-15 Thread donald hwong
, Is there an objective or not? Thank you, Donald Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, here we go... Is there an objective or not? DaveK wrote: To what? ...to any of Jarvis' posts. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you

RE: [Zen] Re: Is there an objective?

2006-05-15 Thread donald hwong
Thank you Bill for letting me feel comfortable and welcomed. My question is, from the reading, it seems to indicate, slience, or emptiness or vacancy or nothingness is where we need to reach first!??? If so, then what? Do you have any other post? Namaste. Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: