If you want to call buddha nature experience not mind, then how can experience
or awareness of experience appear or exist without a mind?buddha taught mind
mixes with buddha nature like water mixing with water, so if there is a part of
mind that is discriminating, or that feels, can there also
and compassion.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, maitreya003 joultimo@ wrote:
Bill,
Observed object and observer is not duality. Observer and object can exist
free from duality. This is how a buddha can forever be in the world while
being in the state that most
Bill,
Observed object and observer is not duality. Observer and object can exist
free from duality. This is how a buddha can forever be in the world while
being in the state that most of the high beings on the site must negate the
world to maintain. Which also explains why most advice and
Bill
You're right as usual. Dogen didn't mention anything aboout commandments,
salvation or jihad.
To sit is the practice arisen from advice, not commanded but like a
commandment, thou shalt sit to practice Buddha.
Salvation is within the experience of true self. He may not have said sit
Artie,
The mind controls or can control the body's responses. Anger arises in the
mind and though it may be as you say, these responses are automatic, We can
have direct control over them. Patience is not a mind that arises
automatically, but with effort patience negates anger. It does not
Artie
I will not assume things. A good idea if you don't want your intentions to be
open to interpretation is to explain them. Single lines have different
meanings for different people, so use the lines, but then share the meaning
they have for you. This way the need to tell me and Anthony
be used with
caution, yes?
This is why I like animals so much. No words - yet there is always
communication and plenty of understanding :-) Or at least it's that way
for me.
Artie
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, maitreya003 joultimo@ wrote:
I will not assume things. A good idea
Trying to change others is like trying to cover the earth with leather to
protect your feet from stones and thorns. It is much easier to put on shoes.
THis is meant to bring peace to a being who goes through the world affected by
everyone else. If you want to be happy and you go about it by
Bill,
All your one liners on this post to Anthony have a common theme which is
offering help. When an addict becomes free and helps others overcome addiction
they are not flawed, but when a person experiences freedom from suffering do to
the transformation of negative actions to virtuous ones
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Of maitreya003
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BIll
[Bill!...from a previous post] If you are `liberated', are not `picking
and choosing', then actions are just actions. It's up
Artie
When I said, Or is what happens what matters? What I meant is, my neighbor is
helped, the stray cats are fed, and the work at the library is done - isn't
that what is real?
That is my point of the culmination of compassion. What happens is; Happiness
arises, beings are liberated, the
anyone else.
Artie
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, maitreya003 joultimo@ wrote:
That is my point of the culmination of compassion. What happens is;
Happiness arises, beings are liberated, the world shares in peace.--
Joe
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FROM: Over the hills
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Joe
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote:
Maitreya003,
My comments are embedded below:
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...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, maitreya003 joultimo@ wrote:
or build a boat when one is spontaneously needed. or feed others when they
hunger, help find shelter for those who need rest. When self is individual
then it's all about individual needs. Thinking of your self is ok
...@... wrote:
Okay, how about '...eat when you're hungry, sleep when you're tired, wake
when you're rested and build a boat when you're asked.'?
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, maitreya003 joultimo@ wrote:
Bill
Just keep sitting, and eat when you're hungry, sleep when you're
...@yahoogrou ps.com, maitreya003 joultimo@ wrote:
or build a boat when one is spontaneously needed. or feed others when they
hunger, help find shelter for those who need rest. When self is individual
then it's all about individual needs. Thinking of your self is ok but not
other selves.
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You forget everything of self down to the most subtle self undisclosed in
sutra. But to others you appear to remember everything, omniscience. path
Destruction of the self down to very subtle self grasping to which if you did
not know of its existence you could not achieve freedom from it.
.
I didnt mean to get long winded sorry about that.
Joe
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Joe,
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What are the criteria for ultimate truths and false truths?
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Anthony
--- On Fri, 23/7/10, maitreya003 joult...@... wrote:
From: maitreya003 joult
are not changed, but they can all be
changed with effeort because nothing is real and everything is changable.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mapturtle74 victor5...@... wrote:
maitreya003 But, like every human being they have the capacity for
change. They were not born monsters but bread
Bill,
Without control the desire for money arrises in their minds to which they are a
slave to. From this comes actions to which are just in the view that they
have, their view of life arises spontaneously for them. Their thinking arose
without awareness and true control, from their view
Bill
Just keep sitting, and eat when you're hungry, sleep when you're tired, wake
when you're rested and deal with whatever comes up in a spontaneous manner
without any goals or valutions in mind.
And if someone asks you to design and build a boat, can you just sit and not
set any goals and
That doesn't mean that the murderer doesn't return to the human race though.
Even if the human race is unable to tell or does not care. The murderer is
gone accepting the reprecussion, but the judgement still remains in the minds
and hearts of the world stuck in the past seeing what is no
, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:28 PM, maitreya003 joult...@... wrote:
Buddha claimed ultimate truth and warned of hells and taught a true path to
which conflicted other paths. Â There are ultimate truths and there are
false truths. Â Those who hold false truths declair ignorance as truth.
joe
Buddha claimed ultimate truth and warned of hells and taught a true path to
which conflicted other paths. There are ultimate truths and there are false
truths. Those who hold false truths declair ignorance as truth.
joe
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
ED,
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