Re: [Zen] Cultivating Chi
V, Master Po lied! Or perhaps you are misinterpreting him... In Zen there is no 'good' or 'evil', though there is the implicit assumption that when one is acting from enlightenment one will in general be doing things that the world would usually but not necessarily always call good. This is because one will be aware of the Buddha nature of all beings and act naturally compassionately towards them. There is also the assumption that detached compassion tends to further the attainment of enlightenment, as it generates minimal attachments, attachments being impediments to enlightenment. Edgar On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:35 PM, v wrote: Edgar Owen wrote: trying to classify which of those forces is yang and which is yin misses the point. It was always my understanding one side was the good/light and the other half was the evil desires/darkness. What did I miss? This is how it was explained by Kwai Chan Caine on the TV show Kung Fu, and Master Po would not lie.
Re: [Zen] Cultivating Chi
V, I wouldn't put it that way. Edgar On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:33 PM, v wrote: Edgar Owen wrote: At death we are NOT moving from one state to another. There is no after death state. Life is consciousness. Death is an illusion in the sense that it is never experienced. Is is not and can not be part of direct experience, therefore it is non existent and the greatest of illusions. So we are all eternal bits of soul energy flowing around the universe?
Re: [Zen] Cultivating Chi
JMJM might, though. Chris --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: V, I wouldn't put it that way. Edgar On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:33 PM, v wrote: Edgar Owen wrote: At death we are NOT moving from one state to another. There is no after death state. Life is consciousness. Death is an illusion in the sense that it is never experienced. Is is not and can not be part of direct experience, therefore it is non existent and the greatest of illusions. So we are all eternal bits of soul energy flowing around the universe? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zen] cultivating chi
Just keep trying to be younger. I think that is your chi which can make you younger and bring about eternal life if properly cultivated. Please provide good examples of cultivating chi! Best wishes, Al - Original Message - From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Antwort: JUDO Al, On the average, there are about 15-20% of the English posted here are beyond me. I can read every word, but I miss the mark. Like this one for instance, what part is the younger? It would be nice if you could pointed out and then I can try to be younger. Wouldn't you? :-) Fitness63 wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - Indeed, even the chakra connections, chi flow, etc. occur most fluidly when we expect the least. Our head really blocks off a lot of things Did you really write this, or do you have someone translating for you? I hope you are not offended, but sometimes you sound like an old professor and sometimes you sound like a younger person. I get the feeling that the flavor of your messages depends on who is translating or you may be watching too much Television and that is affecting your style. Please turn off your TV and return to meditation and study. I like the old professor style better. Al
[Zen] Cultivating Chi
Al, How about this one from our San Francisco practitioner, Guy French? Original Message Subject:[HeartChan] Re: [Fwd: Stillness In Motion Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Fuu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Heart Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _/\_ Here is my take on this coming from a Shaolin background. When we do motion Chan we are in mostly yang state. When we do sitting Chan we are in a mostly yin state. I say mostly because... When we do Yang Chan we we try to maintain a Yin mind, inner state, When we do sitting, our mind is focusing on moving Chi. Our breath is in motion, our blood is in motion. Even trying to have a yin mind, and no mind, we are experiencing a form of Yang. As with the symbol of Tai Chi/yin yang there is no pure one or the other, there is only degrees of both. Even at death we are moving from one state to another, even if it is just physically. I would say true form is flowing. _/\_ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/