[Zen] Re: TNH

2008-10-20 Thread Mayka
Hi Chris; Excellent book the one you mention The Heart of the Buddha Teachings. Some different traditions have adopted it due to its clarity and easy reading. After that book comes the one with the tittle Understanding our Mind which is also the one I've been copying the fifty verses.

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-16 Thread Mayka
explanations or suggestions?  From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perew Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:52 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness Mike -   A toast to the things

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread roloro1557
Hi Mike- --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your email. As always you write very eloquently. I haven't read that in Alan Watts, but I think he's absolutely correct. How many non-Buddhist Zen practitioners do you know who look really good on

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread roloro1557
Hi All- Just to let you know, I have had the same problem periodically. Margie (roloro1557) ---Bill wrote: P.S. For some reason I'm not getting any of Mayka's or Mike's postings. I get Zen Forum postings sent directly to me via email. I only see the postings when someone, like Mark,

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
and do this if you don't at least try to follow the precepts. I hope this made sense to you. Mike. - Original Message From: roloro1557 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 18:53:57 Subject: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature

RE: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread BillSmart
this? Or can anyone else offer any possible explanations or suggestions? From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perew Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:52 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
Hi Bill!, Zen without Buddhism is like a fish in a bucket full of holes.. Mike. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 19:23:45 Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread Edgar Owen
Of Mark Perew Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:52 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness Mike - A toast to the things I cannot change! On 10/15/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, My

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
Haha! I wonder how many of us we would meet in a bar this evening? I'll put my hand up! Mike. - Original Message From: Mark Perew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 17:52:12 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread roloro1557
Hi Mike, My understanding is that zen is not a philosophy (intellect) nor a religion (psychology). It's something else, in a category by itself. As someone not unfamiliar with both philosophy and religion, I agree. I agree with you about intellectual head candy, and I think a little goes a long

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread cid830
:52 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness Mike -   A toast to the things I cannot change!     On 10/15/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, My knowledge and insight about

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
is that your view (mine too) is practical and relevant to living a zen life and Edgar's is not. Mike - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 19:50:26 Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
3:51:12 Subject: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness How will the fish get to market? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Mike and Mark, Zen without Buddhism is like a fish without a bicycle...Bill! From

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread Edgar Owen
From: cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 3:51:12 Subject: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness How will the fish get to market? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
Hi Edgar, They've probably come to check out the 'new guy' they think they've never seen before.. - Original Message From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 9:24:58 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread Edgar Owen
From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 9:24:58 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness Mike, Nonsense! Are you a fish? Then why do my koi come over to me when I approach

RE: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread BillSmart
You can take the fish to the market. It's all up to you...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cid830 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:51 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense

Re: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread mike brown
Hi Bill!, How long does it take the fish to go nowhere? Mike - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 13:53:58 Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-15 Thread cid830
Ha! ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL! Aaaag, I did it again! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Edgar, They've probably come to check out the 'new guy' they think they've never seen before.. Current Book Discussion: