[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-18 Thread SteveW
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > Steve, > > Right on! > > Both one and two AND neither one nor two AND one AND two. > > --ED > > Hi ED. Yes. And of course this transcends logical thinking. But it can be > intuitively apprehended. IMO. Steve

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-18 Thread ED
Steve, Right on! Both one and two AND neither one nor two AND one AND two. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" wrote: > > Hi Ed and Bill! In my opinion non-duality is not the opposite of duality. Realizing that everything is not-two leads to greater effectiveness in all areas o

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread SteveW
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" wrote: > > ED, > > I'd agree with what you stated below if you just change one word, the > penultimate word. Change it from 'real' to 'illusory'. > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread Bill!
I Like This too! Especially because of the very approriate reference to the 10th stage of the Ox Herding pictures...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > On Monday, January 17, 2011, ED wrote: > > > Every individual with some ego-strength may feel that he/she ha

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread Bill!
ED, I'd agree with what you stated below if you just change one word, the penultimate word. Change it from 'real' to 'illusory'. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote: > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Packer > > > Every individua

Re: [Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony Wu
ED wrote: From: ED Subject: [Zen] Re: Toni Packer? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 17 January, 2011, 10:55 PM     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Packer Every individual with some ego-strength may feel that he/she has found another 'only right way' (which works for them

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread SteveW
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > Taunted again and again by the footnotes to try to make this list a > book discussion group, I ask if any one has met, studied with, or read > Toni Packer? She has an interesting history of being a follower of > Philip Kapleau, of t

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
On Monday, January 17, 2011, ED wrote: > Every individual with some ego-strength may feel that he/she has found > another 'only right way' (which works for themselves.) You may wish to judge her based on the wiki article, but her leaving Buddhism i think is like the distinction Bill! makes betw

[Zen] Re: Toni Packer?

2011-01-17 Thread ED
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Packer Every individual with some ego-strength may feel that he/she has found another 'only right way' (which works for themselves.) Non-duality may work well in a monastery, when directed toward realizing Buddha Natu