Bill is not wrong. That is if after we cleansed our body and go on our own journey. Everything becomes a just scenary.
dkotschessa is also not wrong. Space out could happen when the body is filled with karmic influences, we called "dirty chi", or also called "karmic influence" or simply just "impurity". Furthermore, for many of us, sitting is just so hard to do at the beginning. Our school emphasizes the returning to child-like innocence for both the body and the mind. At the end, it is actually the "Chi" which is the "linking force" -- this requires practice to witness. I don't know about Soto Zen or Korean Zen enough to compare, But many Chinese schools in Taiwan does not teach the original Taoiest pracitce of meditation to heal and strengthen the body. This kind of sitting practice they do, are really "withered Zen", for it has no life force in it. Enlightenment is the synchronization of both the life force and wisdom. That was how I was taught and slowly witnessing bits and pieces of it, along with many practitioners in our school. that is a whole another subject by itself. For now, just by practicing belly breathing for 3 months and then chakra observation enables anyone to be healthier and calmer. If anyone is interested, I can list the benefit of observing each chakra, so that the readers can target their chakra based on their discomfort. Each of us has the capability to experience the "Chi". When we are able to experience the "Chi" everywhere in our body, where we observe, then we don't get sick. I have not catch cold for many years.(I can prescribe a simple practice to demonstrate to each of your to experienced this "chi" yourself in three minutes.) Purify the body is the just first step. It is also the easiest and the most fun part of it. Namaste, Donald dkotschessa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Allen, Just sit. You don't have to worry about breathing or focus or the > size, shape or position of your hara. All that will fall into place if you > just sit. Not necessarily. If you do not develop a bit of focus in your practice first you will probably just be spacing out. "Just spacing" is not "Just sitting." --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.