Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread mike brown
Personally, I'd like to have seen Mr T become President instead of just being George Bush's poliical advisor and speech writer. Mike. - Original Message From: Jackson Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 13:05:25 Subject: [Zen] Re:

[Zen] Recent Duplicate Postings

2008-10-22 Thread BillSmart
Sorry for the series of duplicate postings. It has something to do with my email server. I think it must have held my email postings to the Forum for an unusual amount of time before sending. My email postings usually get posted within minutes after I send them. I first thought my email

Re: [Zen] Obama, Farrkhan, Ali: Muslim Pals

2008-10-22 Thread mike brown
Colin Powell is black?? - Original Message From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 19:53:22 Subject: Re: [Zen] Obama, Farrkhan, Ali: Muslim Pals Jackson, Thanks for the information. Even more reason to vote for him! Or

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
I PITY THE FOOL! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I'd like to have seen Mr T become President instead of just being George Bush's poliical advisor and speech writer. Mike. Current Book Discussion:

Re: [Zen] Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread Jody W. Ianuzzi
Hello Jackson, I am blind and I don't care what color people are. Now if people would not be prejudiced against ME for being blind, that would be great. JODY WE MUST BE THE CHANGE WE WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD ~ Gandhi Current Book Discussion: any Zen

[Zen] Re: Correction

2008-10-22 Thread Mayka
Chris; Thanks for The website you pasted. However, I haven't managed to open any of the pages except from front page of the link. Why you didn't go back to the temple of Thich Than Tu again?. What are you following now?. Do you have a Teacher, Sangha or just follow your own way?.

Re: [Zen] Causality

2008-10-22 Thread Mayka
Hi Mike again, Yes San Sebastian is a very pretty elegant city. Sorry you couldn't translate the page. Just to let you know, I have a google bar for translation in the internet. You can download it if you wish. Though, it can only be used in web pages but not for posting in groups. I

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread Daryl E Curry
A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did not post messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity that clearly is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the abyss. Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would respond to

[Zen] Hello!

2008-10-22 Thread ejason85
Hello, I am new to the group and wanted to introduce myself. my name is Jason and I am fairly new to zen. I joined to learn more about zen and buddhism, as I have a VERY basic understanding of both. I have been spiritual for many years and have meditated, although I wish to do it more

Re: [Zen] Causality

2008-10-22 Thread Jo Rose
Hi Edgar and All   I've been reading your posts with much interest, (and am a newbie to the Zen thing).  Edgar, in response to your post below, I wanted to ask what you believe the difference is between an automatic act coming 'directly from the Tao at the centre of ones nature' and a

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
Blue, Thank you for posting. Your words reflect clearly the state of your being. You are obviously a serious practitioner. Not all of us here are, that is not a requirement. I agree, I am too-often prone to reply to idiocy, reflecting my own while doing so. But I sometimes just can't help

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread Mac A. Roni
I have not been following this thread very closely. Did anyone post the list of black Zen Masters? Are there any Hispanic Zen Masters?? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups

[Zen] Re: Correction

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
Mayka, I noticed that, too. It took them forever just to get the main page posted in English. I guess they just haven't built the subsequent pages yet. I started going to the temple soon after they opened it. It was just the nuns and about five westerners who would meet on Saturdays for a

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
Mac, Bill pretty confidently replied that there were no black masters. No one has mentioned latinos until now. You haven't missed much, just some silliness. Chris --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mac A. Roni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not been following this thread very closely. Did

[Zen] Re: Hello!

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
Jason, Welcome. You've come to the right place. We just had a thread recently where many described their satori experiences. Everyone has their own perspective. This group encompasses the spectrum. You'll see a few differing beliefs of what zen is to each of us. Some follow a zen buddhist

RE: [Zen] buddhism

2008-10-22 Thread BillSmart
Bob, The question you've asked touches a theme that surfaces from time to time on this forum. That is whether zen is a sub-set of Buddhism (as in Zen Buddhism), or whether zen is something that can be found outside of Buddhism as well. I believe the latter, but you must know that many on

RE: [Zen] Hello!

2008-10-22 Thread BillSmart
Jason, Welcome to the Zen Forum! My suggestion to you is to learn to sit zen meditation (Japanese word = 'zazen'). If you can find a zen group near you with a legitimate teacher, that would be the best route. If not you can find out how to sit zazen from many sources. I've listed some on a

RE: [Zen] hi

2008-10-22 Thread BillSmart
Bob, Welcome to Zen Forum! Books about zen are not high on my list, although I have read a lot of them over the years. D.T. Suzuki presents a very scholarly view of Buddhism, not so much Zen Buddhism, but his books are considered classics in the field. I always recommend sitting with groups

RE: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread BillSmart
Mac. A. Roni, If you wouldn't spend so much time being a side dish you'd know that no one has offered any lists of zen Masters of any kind. I certainly hope no one does. Try to keep up! ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac A. Roni Sent: Thursday,

[Zen] Re: buddhism

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
Hi Bob, I'm Chris, and I am a little knowlegeable on this subject. There are Buddhist monks and nuns. And there are Zen Buddhist monks and nuns. As far as I know, there is a difference between traditional buddhism and zen buddhism. Zen buddhism has streamlined alot of the dogma, but there are