Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Kristy McClain
Good Eve DP,   I understand.. But what YOU don't  understand yet is that OCD... is your particular  vulnwerability.   I spent 25 minutes underwater. I drowned.   Don't you think I faced rehab.. and my own inabilities.. not to mention judgements from others during recovery??    For me.. part

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Edgar Owen
DP, Why on earth would anyone be worried about death? After all you won't be around or conscious to experience it! Remember you were dead before you were born. Do you worry about not being alive before you were born? Of course not. Then why worry about being dead after you're dead? Same thing

RE: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Jody W. Ianuzzi
I figure if I am thinking about death then I am alive and I don't have to worry about it and if I am dead I won't know it. JODY Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[Zen] Re: Death

2010-08-30 Thread salik888
Peace I think there are two things you can do. And I want to take this time to tell you not to become discouraged by posters that offer obvious solutions and realizations that are supposedy inherent to their way of living and thinking. I can tell that it is not useful. You are not going to

[Zen] Re: Death

2010-08-30 Thread DP
Namaste, and thank you. I will think long and hard about your words (I've been doing zazen for awhile now, but not without difficulty). I do find some of the comments (and I apologize to anyone here) a little condescending, like you haven't figured that out yet? On another site, I just got

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Kristy McClain
*smiles*   Your comment reminds me of the koan about what your face looked like before you were born.    Perhaps that  IS a meditation  koan DP could ponder;)   As to the post suggesting that everyone is , or must be afraid of death beit consciously or not-- I must respectfully disagree.  Such

Re: [Zen] Re: Death

2010-08-30 Thread Rose P
Thank you for posting such an insightful respone on this topic..   Rose --- On Mon, 8/30/10, salik888 novelid...@aol.com wrote: From: salik888 novelid...@aol.com Subject: [Zen] Re: Death To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:09 PM   Peace I think there are two

Re: [Zen] Re: Death

2010-08-30 Thread Maria Lopez
DP:   I also sense that fear of death is also fear of life.  I suppose that when one lives in the present moment, which I can assure you is pretty difficult to do,  A lot of the fears seem to lessen more and more.  On the other way round, when I forget to be fully present in my body and mind in

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Anthony Wu
Edgar,   Your highlighted remark makes things worse. It is no cure for the fear of death. There must be a 'cure', but not the words.   Anthony --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: From: Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net Subject: Re: [Zen] Death To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Edgar Owen
Anthony, For you maybe but not for me... You need to get rid of your attachments to life and to death both! If you clearly realize the true nature of your being that will happen automatically. Edgar On Aug 30, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: Edgar, Your highlighted remark makes

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-30 Thread Anthony Wu
DP,   Kristy, again, offers a possible solution: helping others to combat fear of death. Try it, and consider consulting a physician on a possible medicine.   On the other hand, don't even think about her words 'fear of death is so and so'.   Anthony --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Kristy McClain

[Zen] Re: Death

2010-08-30 Thread Joe
Dave, (just chiming-in now after some years ignoring these fora). Well, no, there are not. ARe there any good meditations I can do which helps me deal with my fear of death? I think that meditations with a theme are not zen meditation. But you could try such a thing as a therapeutic