Re: [Zen] If you save a life

2010-09-19 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello Tim:   Preventing to commit suicide is a very noble intention. May I ask you how do you intent to prevent that to happen to your friend?.  What is going to be your action here to persuade your friend?.    Thanks Mayka         --- On Sun, 19/9/10, tim timg...@aol.com wrote: From: tim

[Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, audreydc1983 audreydc1...@... wrote: Yep, I agree with you - the situation in Australia is a whole different (although somewhat similar) can of worms. But - honestly - couldn't John Howard have just issued a statement to the Aboriginal people acknowledging

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Mayka; I almost never disagree with anything you right, but I think you are being excessively cynical here. The West has caused so much havoc over other cultures because of the conditions they found themselves in, not because of some enduring badness in them. The Guns, Germs Steel book is a

[Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote: The West has caused so much havoc over other cultures because of the conditions they found themselves in, not because of some enduring badness in them. No there is no enduring goodness or badness in *any* ethnic, racial,

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread Maria Lopez
  Hello Chris:   Have I been excessively cynical???.  In which way?.  I don't understand.  I'm surprise of your feedback. ,  Howevr, I stick to what I wrote because this is the way I see it..  Sorry if that sound as an offense to you.   Mayka. --- On Sun, 19/9/10, Chris Austin-Lane

RE: [Zen] If you save a life

2010-09-19 Thread BillSmart
not worked. I suggest you continue with the 'soft sell' that has not worked for another 15 years. And then another, and another... ...Bill! __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5462 (20100919) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
The sentence I was disagreeing with is: On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.comwrote: My view about the human race is that the bad people are always the winers and the ones who promote real civilization based are always the losers. It certainly doesn't offend

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Well, the interesting thing in Guns, Germs and Steel is that the conditions of power arose from other more picayune conditions to do with the distribution of seed sizes and domesticable animals and the orientation of continents. It really wasn't an innate lust for power either, just a simple