RE: [Zen] More about arguments and ego

2010-10-02 Thread BillSmart
DP, You can post here on whatever subject you want - within reason. This is a zen forum so in my opinion the posts should somehow be related to zen - but that's just my opinion. I think if you want to post, for example, on how to tear down a small-block Chevy V-8 engine there are more

Re: [Zen] More about arguments and ego

2010-10-02 Thread DP
I was specifically talking about the other forum, and I didn't want to imply anything about this one. And it's not people being censorious as much as the anti-religious people crowding out the others. Liberation Theology is a movement that originally started with Roman Catholic priests in

[Zen] Unclear on what is mind

2010-10-02 Thread DP
Part of my fear of death is not so much of death but of senility or loss of memory. In western terms, that's what I think of as mind. But I have to admit, I dont know if I fully understand the Buddhist concept of mind. Can anybody help with this? Current

Re: [Zen] Should we disturb zazen practice with issues like this?

2010-10-02 Thread cid830
Ed, I haven't kept up with the Zen Forum for several months. It seems I come back to where I left off, always agreeing with Master Bill. In recalling past posts I always seemed to disagree with your point of view on zen. I do recall some agreement. I know I always admired your perspective

[Zen] Re: Unclear on what is mind

2010-10-02 Thread cid830
DP, I think the concept of mind is the basis of Buddhism. From my perspective in practise, the mind is key to ultimate nirvana and the obstruction to getting there. It is the cause of our suffering and the only way to relieve that suffering. It is the reason we seek out religions to answer our

[Zen] Re: Unclear on what is mind

2010-10-02 Thread DP
My concern then is the idea of losing the mind, either through senility or dementia or mental illness. If we are stripped of our cognitive abilities, then where is the mind, and how can we still practise? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 summitj...@... wrote: DP, I think the

Re: [Zen] Unclear on what is mind

2010-10-02 Thread Anthony Wu
DP,   I don't guarantee understanding of 'mind' will solve the problem of fear of death. Mind is not only a Buddhist concept. For instance, Edgar talks about Tao, global spirit or some other big names. It is the same concept that mind never dies. In Buddhist terms, it creates everything. So you

Re: [Zen] Re: Unclear on what is mind

2010-10-02 Thread Anthony Wu
If you lose your mind, you cannot practice, unless a Joshu comes to strike you with a big stick or you reincarnate as a wild fox.   Anthony --- On Sun, 3/10/10, DP wookielife...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: DP wookielife...@yahoo.ca Subject: [Zen] Re: Unclear on what is mind To:

[Zen] Mind

2010-10-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi DP, Science will tell you, there are more neuron firing to the brain from the stomach then the other way around. Similarly there are more neuron from the sub conscience, from the heart, from other organs, from the entire body... In Chan, wisdom is not from the brain, but from the heart

[Zen] Re: Unclear on what is mind

2010-10-02 Thread DP
But don't we all lose our minds in the end? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote: If you lose your mind, you cannot practice, unless a Joshu comes to strike you with a big stick or you reincarnate as a wild fox.   Anthony --- On Sun, 3/10/10, DP wookielife...@...

[Zen] Re: Mind

2010-10-02 Thread DP
I've been reading a book about buddhist psychology by Jack Kornfield, and he talks about mind or consciousness being just what we apprehend, pure experience, not even based on memory. Does that make any sense? What can I read about this that will help me out? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [Zen] Re: Mind

2010-10-02 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Chan is not about sense? it is sit down, shut up and stop thinking... Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 10/2/2010 7:35 PM, DP wrote: I've been reading a book about buddhist psychology by Jack Kornfield, and he talks about