RE: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread BillSmart
Siska, I purposefully did not jump right in and answer your question about Buddha. I knew there'd be plenty of others who would respond to that. But, your comments in the attached post prompt me to respond. Buddha does mean 'the awakened one' in Sanskrit - at least that's what I've been

Re: [Zen] Non-zen Question for Mike

2010-10-28 Thread mike brown
Bill, The scenarios you present are so radically different that it makes me think I'm missing some finer, subtler point - but for the life of me I can't find it! A jury will take into consideration the standards/accepted know.ledge of the time when they make a decision. Ask someone today

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-28 Thread mike brown
I *really* wanna see ED's chat up lines and their effects in one of my local bars : ) Mike From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 26 October, 2010 10:07:40 Subject: Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question   ALL

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread mike brown
Mayka, Beer *without* alcohol?!! What kind of an abomination is that?!! I'm Welsh/Australian so I've never come across such a blasphemy. Must be something made for the English. Also, I don't drink with mindfulness as a goal (unless you count 'getting out of your mnd' as the same

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread ED
Four and twenty black-birds baked in a pie. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Ed, I ask you again: `What is Buddha?' …Bill! Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread ED
Bill, Not only has the rational mind (neocortex) to be shut down, but also the emotional/feeling mind (limbic system) which is ever busy distorting experiences. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Siska, I purposefully did not jump right in and answer your

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-28 Thread ED
Mike, Would I be leaving the bar all in one piece? :-( --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusub...@... wrote: I *really* wanna see ED's chat up lines and their effects in one of my local bars : ) Mike ALL WHAT I MEAN IS THAT YOU HAVE BORED ME TO DEATH. LET ME

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread ED
I don't care who the buddha was/is. I experienced/experience his teachings as leading me out of confusion and suffering, and toward happiness. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, siska_...@... wrote: I just remember reading somewhere, long time ago that Buddha literally means the

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Ed, Austin's description below is a pretty good one as far as written explanation go – but it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you note that it is ONLY A DESCRIPTION. Bill, Austin knows that; I know that; everybody knows that. It's

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Thanks Dear Audrey:   It's a sweet sharing.  Good for you that you managed in this way to stop smoking.  I did tried the method of the breathing for years but didn't work out for me.    I don't feel bad about being a smoker but perhaps others do.  It doesn't stop me from sitting down,

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Anthony:   Not sure how much cost a packet of cigarettes now in the UK but I know that are very expensive.  The price is increasing everywhere in Europe because of the aggressive campaign encouraging people to give up smoking.   I have mine sent from Spain and last time I paid almost 4

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Anthony:   This drink is not a cocktail.  A cocktail is made with a mixture of alcoholic drinks and this is not.  It's a popular summer drink mainly in North of Spain. For intstance during that traditional folkloric festivities in Pamplona, that one that Hemingway made inmortal through his

RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Bill:   All languages are in constant evolution.  All are dynamic, continuously moving and adding new words and expressions. Even the grammar changes.  This is the reason of having Scholars specialised in the  in Spanish Lingua.  It's their job to add the new words, new grammar rules

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Siska:   Reading books is educative.  Nothing wrong about reading.  A different matter is how a reading is interpreted, or taking the words from that book as a kind of ultimate truth and things like that.   For instance a frequent experience I keep coming across in Internet is

Re: [Zen] Non-zen Question for Mike

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Bill and Mike:   I'm listening both with lots of interest.  Keep going! Mayka   --- On Thu, 28/10/10, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Zen] Non-zen Question for Mike To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 28 October, 2010,

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Reading message in capital letters again, I don't feel good about it now.  That is not the way to talk to anyone. I could simply choose to be silence and ignore the mail.  But it felt as I was bombarded by the mail.   Sorry ED.  I didn't mean to harm you.         --- On Thu, 28/10/10, mike

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Mike:   Ok I can see you never try that beer without alcohol.  Drinking in mindfulness only means to be aware of what you are drinking, sensing what you are drinking, feeling its taste, feeling how your lips, tongue, teeth, mouth, throat, trachea, stomachfeel, react...acknowledge all

RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Are you sure 7 UP contains beer?   Anthony --- On Thu, 28/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 28 October, 2010, 10:48 AM  

RE: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
Siska,   If you want to get around Bill's block on my posts, let me know. At least I can refer you to those Chinese surfers who are expert in avoiding government's blockage.   Anthony --- On Thu, 28/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
Mike,   I don't see the connection between the British Army and orgyhouse studies. Is it along the same line as my idea that gentlemen and sinners are synonyms?   Anthony --- On Thu, 28/10/10, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Zen]

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   I second you, disregarding the mahayana's and vajrayana's myths.   Anthony --- On Fri, 29/10/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 29 October, 2010, 12:03 AM  

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
A story about a father and son meeting with a dog barking fiercely. The son said, 'dad, you told me barking dogs don't bite. so we should not be afraid.' However, the father replied, 'son. You know barking dogs don't bite. I know it too. But does this particular dog know barking dogs don't

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
Mayka,   I am surprised you can get cigarettes sent from Spain to the UK without being accused of smuggling.   Anthony --- On Fri, 29/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain To:

RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
Mayka,   I know nothing about Spanish, but I hope there will not be sentences and grammar like the following:   The book sells good. (The book does not sell. You sell it.)   I am sold out on the book. (I have not been sold like a slave. But I have run out of the books, because so many have

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Maria Lopez
Anthony I'm not doing anything against the UK law if this is what you are suggesting. Mayka   --- On Thu, 28/10/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 28 October, 2010, 23:13

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-28 Thread Anthony Wu
Mayka,   Sorry, I was wrong. But in Asia here, bringing cigarettes from one country to another involves heavy duty above the quota. It is different in different places. Singapore gives you zero quota, which means every single piece has to be taxed. Hong Kong is a bit more lenient, with 19