Re: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread Lluís Mendieta
Hi, Ed How you could be sure that an experience is not an illussion? A mirage is an illussion, and you experience it. Even in maths, all constructs rely in a set of axiomas, that by definition, could not be proven. With best wishes Lluís - Original Message - From:

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Lluís Mendieta
Thanks, Anthony With best wishes Lluís - Original Message - From: Anthony Wu To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Lluis, I think the key difference between

Re: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Hi ED: Every time I've tried to explain the differences between illusion and reality my mind seems to get entangled, like in clear sunny day coming all of a sudden a thick mist. Hi Mayka, And, so what if your mind gets

Re: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Lluís Mendieta lme...@... wrote: Hi, Ed How you could be sure that an experience is not an illusion? A mirage is an illusion, and you experience it. As far as I am aware I have never ever experienced anything in my life as an 'illusion'. But, when

Re: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread ED
Bill, That's your position, and I honor and respect it. You must understand that a perspective on life that is derived from an inner experience is different from one that is arrived at intellectually. --Kobori-Roshi (1918-1992) Taste as much of this as you can. Swallow what you need and spit

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread ED
OTOH, one ball-breaking liaison with an American feminist might cure A's curiosity about Tantric sex for good! ;-) e --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthypl...@... wrote: *chuckles* Well then-- I dare say that you have a homework assignment this weekend. Please

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread ED
Not Zen. Mahayana/Vajrayana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amit%C4%81bha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amit%C4%81bha --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Lluís Mendieta lme...@... wrote: Hi, Anthony Thanks for answer. Well, I am not the best to answer your question, bercause my

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Lluís Mendieta
Thanks, Ed With best wishes Lluís - Original Message - From: ED To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Not Zen. Mahayana/Vajrayana

[Zen] Re: Q A

2010-11-06 Thread Timgoes
About the past and some mistakes I made like, In school I used a black permanent marker as a highlighter. While fishing I caught a talking fish. It said, Spare my life and I will grant you 2 wishes. I said, No way , the deal is supposed to be 3 wishes. So I killed him and ate him. I

[Zen] Re: Q A

2010-11-06 Thread ED
Hi Tim, Thank you! Very funny. You are learning. However, learning from your own experience appears to be a rather slow process for you. Have you looked for alternative approaches in order to speed up the learning process for yourself (only provided that that's what you choose to do)? - ED

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Kristy McClain
Good Morning Ed,   I think you may be confusing femininst with fem-domme here. Its likely that Tim understands the joys of ball-clamps better than most.   As for Anthony-- if pain and pleasure  are the yin /yang of lust, perhaps a dungeon in the basement of his local zen center is precisely

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Kristy McClain
Good Morning Ed,   I think you may be confusing femininst with fem-domme here. Its likely that Tim understands the joys of ball-clamps better than most.   As for Anthony-- if pain and pleasure  are the yin /yang of lust, perhaps a dungeon in the basement of his local zen center is precisely

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony Wu
Kristy,   Tigress? No, no. She would 'eat my heart out'. A wild fox shouldn't be too bad.   As for Bill, he is busy defending himself against a 'oneness' proposal from widow ghosts in Thailand. No time to talk.   It is time for the Tantric to stop playing with Buddhism and turn their temples

Re: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   Mahayana has developed both Buddhist philosophy and doctrine into very high levels. Is it moving away or enhancing Buddhism itself?   On the other hand, if there was no mahayana, there would not be zen.   Anthony --- On Sat, 6/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED

RE: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Got it. What you experience in an orgyhouse is reality. The rest are illusion.   anthony --- On Sat, 6/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory To:

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   I can try to be receptive, but I also believe 88.88% of us are fixated on being right on our own beliefs.   anthony --- On Sat, 6/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Anthony Wu
K and E,   My local zen center just had the teacher quit. Who will apply for the job to supervise the activities in the basement?   A --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-06 Thread Kristy McClain
Anthony,   So you're gonna wuss-out. How will you ever know the rose if you fear the thorns?   As for Bill-- (wow)  I didn't know he was on the market. What do those widows think about his menagerie of kids? After all-- the man does have baggage, and I'm not talking tea-bagging here. In terms

Re: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread Maria Lopez
ED; I believe that, in living your life, you have no problem telling the difference. Mayka; I don't think in terms of illusion or reality in daily life.  I often live in a world of illusion.  I wish I could tell you differently but that wouldn't be honest.  .  It made me laugh your say

RE: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread BillSmart
traditions are illusory. Everything you experience is reality. Reality is not illusory. …Bill!   __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5597 (20101106) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

RE: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

2010-11-06 Thread BillSmart
in it. ;-) --ED __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5597 (20101106) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database