[Zen] Re: Liberation

2010-12-23 Thread Mel
ED: 'Amen!' requires an end. Is there ever an *end* to the shenanigans in the typical human male-female relationship? ;-) MEL: An end? Never, which is why we are now bombarded with all sorts of ideas concerning MEN ARE FROM MARS, WOMEN ARE FROM VENUS...and other dualistic works

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-23 Thread Mel
MEL: Hi there Bill, ED, and all BILL: That sounds a lot like what a great bodhisattva is reported to have taught: Matthew 6:2 So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the

[Zen] Mantrasphere

2010-12-23 Thread psaikido
http://mantrasphere.co.uk Songs from Silence Mantrasphere is a unique new music project distilled from zen meditation and yet accessible to all. Musician Hugh Carroll has integrated elements of the modern, western singer/songwriter genre with ancient Eastern Buddhist mantras to produce

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-23 Thread Bill!
ED, You might have values and objectives, but you should not be attached to your (or anyone else's) values or objectives. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ED seacrofter...@... wrote: Mel and Bill, What a person says or does is a function of his or her conscious or

[Zen] Re: Liberation

2010-12-23 Thread Bill!
ED, I wasn't implying an end. I understand 'amen' to be used to express assent or approval. In this case I was using it sarcastically...Bill! Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/amen#ixzz18w5l2B9X --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ED seacrofter...@... wrote: 'Amen!' requires

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-23 Thread Bill!
Amen! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ED seacrofter...@... wrote: Or, take your pick: 'Imagine' or 'Just THIS.' --- Imagine Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-23 Thread ED
Bill, Why *should* I not? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill! billsm...@... wrote: ED, You might have values and objectives, but you should not be attached to your (or anyone else's) values or objectives. ...Bill! Mel and Bill, What a person says or does is a function

[Zen] Re: Liberation

2010-12-23 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel gunnar19632...@... wrote: ED: 'Amen!' requires an end. Is there ever an *end* to the shenanigans in the typical human male-female relationship? ;-) MEL: An end? Never, which is why we are now bombarded with all sorts of ideas concerning MEN ARE FROM MARS,

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-23 Thread ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel gunnar19632...@... wrote: MEL: Hi there Bill, ED, and all BILL: That sounds a lot like what a great bodhisattva is reported to have taught: Matthew 6:2 So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues

[Zen] Re: Liberation III

2010-12-23 Thread ED
Good morning, JMJM - In the final analysis, you are 'right.' 'Liberation' is indeterminate, whether claimed for self or by others. Play with anyone and everyone you please, whether liberated or not - provided you are enjoying it - and then 'walk on.' --ED --- In

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

2010-12-23 Thread ED
Yesterday, I checked on 'oneness' in James Austin's: 'Zen-Mind Reflections'. The subject appears to be quite complex, with pages 333 to 357 and much, much more devoted to it - all a bit over my head. I get the impression that there are five principal categories of 'oneness', and that these

[Zen] Happy Holidays Performance

2010-12-23 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Happy Holiday Wish to Everyone Please watch me perform for you http://kaka.meitu.com/xmas/xmas.php?user=246469 JM -- Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org Current Book Discussion: any Zen