[Zen] Compassion

2010-08-04 Thread Maria Lopez
Talking about compassion, here I paste a first video from the five of them for your all enjoyment.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=armP8TfS9Is   Mayka

RE: [Zen] Compassion

2010-08-04 Thread Maria Lopez
Hi Jody;   Thanks for you empathy towards my person.  But as someone said: Forgive them for they live in forgetfullness  It is said that everything happens for a reason.  Perhaps the reason here is that I may not need from TNH any longer retreats.  One never knows when the bulb of enlightened

RE: [Zen] Compassion

2010-08-04 Thread Maria Lopez
Hey Jody;   By the way, that one that walk away while the friend was grieving perhaps went away to put his own mask of oxigeno and got glued on it; he...!    Mayka     --- On Wed, 4/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [Zen

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-04 Thread Maria Lopez
.   Anthony --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 12:13 AM   Hi Mike, Anthony... and all of you.  How very kind of you both

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-04 Thread Maria Lopez
to make here.  When you reach to the last video you'll be seeing that Teacher leaves the children only when they have already learnt.  He doesn't leave the classroom in the hands of the children.  First he educates them and stay with them supervising...   Mayka  --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-06 Thread Maria Lopez
better test him first before anything serious. In this case, Sakymuni is a good example. He allowed people to have doubts on him.   Anthony --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: zen_fo

RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-07 Thread Maria Lopez
.   Anthony --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 12:13 AM   Hi Mike, Anthony... and all of you.  How very kind

RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-07 Thread Maria Lopez
think it is too premature for you to give up on TNH, who is a wonderful personality.   Anthony --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btintern et.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Thursday, 5 August

RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-07 Thread Maria Lopez
...@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:51 PM To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka?     Hey Bill;   I'd like to introduce myself to you as the Expertise of Emotions, heheNot everything was going to be on oneself detriment

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-07 Thread Maria Lopez
, 7/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 12:00   Artie:   We seem to be both alike here!.    Solidarity and big smile from Mayka

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-07 Thread Maria Lopez
the hollering that is the point as far as your body is concerned. And, please understand, these are just my experiences, everyone has to find their own way :-) Artie --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Correction (I didn't read correctly your last paragraph posting

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-10 Thread Maria Lopez
to guide them. --ED   --- In zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@. .. wrote: Hi Ed:   What are you doing?.  How things are going?.  Thank you for the good intentioned link you posted.  I opened the link and just look on the surface.  Haven't read it.  My eyes resent a little bit

Re: [Zen] Hot Model WallPaper 7:44:50 AM8/10/2010

2010-08-10 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello Bill and JMJM;   Please let me also know a way of stopping the Viagra and other commercials how to stop of using my email address.  I have reported several times but my server only adviced me to sent posting to spam!.  Let me know if any of you receive spam with my address to keep

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-10 Thread Maria Lopez
    Mayka, That's *your* truth, and I neither assert nor deny its truth - for yourself. Persons may in due course realize the wisdom of your understandings - or they may not. Thank you for sharing. --ED   --- In zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@. .. wrote: ED:    Doing

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-12 Thread Maria Lopez
Ari:   Poor thing.  Sorry to hear about such an horrific dream.  I wonder if it means that you are going under an intense change in your life. Not always the meaning of unpleasant dreams is negative and sometimes they mean well on the contrary as Bill was pointing out in his mail. Have you ever

RE: [Zen] Hot Model WallPaper 7:44:50 AM8/10/2010

2010-08-12 Thread Maria Lopez
...@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:32 PM To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hot Model WallPaper 7:44:50 AM8/10/2010     Hello Bill and JMJM;   Please let me also know a way of stopping the Viagra and other commercials how

Re: [Zen] Zen and the art of saving the planet

2010-08-12 Thread Maria Lopez
By the way Ed, didn't read all the way this article either.  Not too relevant to my practice.     --- On Thu, 12/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen and the art of saving the planet To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Zen] Hot Model WallPaper 7:44:50 AM8/10/2010

2010-08-12 Thread Maria Lopez
really know.   …Bill!   From: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Zen_ fo...@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:09 PM To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Hot Model WallPaper 7:44:50 AM8/10/2010     Bill;   Thanks Bill. Mail spam

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-13 Thread Maria Lopez
 Ari: You say: Maybe I am too harsh in my practice. I know I have no love for mysellf and am harsh on myself almost all the time.  I'm trying to work on loving myself, because I can't love anyone else until I have love for myself.  In my personal opinion This statement you've made it makes you

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-13 Thread Maria Lopez
  In addition something important and honoring our JMJM and his tradition:   Let's love oneselves in syncronitation with the universe. --- On Fri, 13/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] EGO To: Zen_Forum

Re: [Zen] Fwd:Calderon Dolphine

2010-08-13 Thread Maria Lopez
JMJM;   Where do we have to sign on here?   Thanks Mayka --- On Fri, 13/8/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: [Zen] Fwd:Calderon Dolphine To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, zenliv...@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
very powerful psychological techniques like tantra need to be treated with much care and consideration to avoid disastrous results for the practitioner.   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Anthony:    In theory : the continuos practice of awareness of body

RE: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
Jody:   Why did you hate yourself?.  Where did you learnt to hate yourself?.  It sounds as a very extreme negative emotion to have towards oneself. Very glad to hear that the readings of the Dalai Lama helped you to overcome the hatred for yourself.    Thanks for writing Mayka   --- On Fri,

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
for the practitioner.   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Anthony:    In theory : the continuos practice of awareness of body and mind, zazen, walking meditation, cooking meditation and all activities made in our daily life (even when we defecate) should help to bring

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
ED;   That hating must be in American Chistians, not in heatlhy Cristians from Europe.  (though there are always the crazy ones all over the world) .  I was brought up as a catholic and never hated myself. Thought there was a lack of proper education how to love oneselves and others at the same

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
method as taught by our school. Chan is an experience based on meditation.  Unless we meditate, it would be hard for us to surpass our habits, i.e. physical habits, mental habits, and spiritual habits. JM On 8/13/2010 1:14 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:     In addition something important

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
Welcome to the zen forum DP;   What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?.  What's that about?.   Thank your for the openeness, honestity and clarity you talk about you.    Mayka --- On Sat, 14/8/10, DP dave.dplat...@gmail.com wrote: From: DP dave.dplat...@gmail.com Subject: [Zen] Namaste- first

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
On 8/14/2010 2:11 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:   JMJM;   If I am so upset and somehow angry at the fact that I couldn't make it to TNH events in the UK is because I am unable to keep the discipline of daily sitting down.  Those retreats are very helpful and supportive towards recharging

Re: [Zen] EGO

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
, Here is the link..    http://dharma.heartchan.org/2010-retreat/ Let me know if you have any question. Donald On 8/14/2010 10:22 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:   JMJM;   To me the most beneficial from a retreat is the practicing in togetherness with other people.  All sense of separateness

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-14 Thread Maria Lopez
comparisons? When Jesus and Satan appear at the same time, what do you choose? Anthony 2--- On Sat, 14/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 14 August, 2010, 4

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-15 Thread Maria Lopez
, looters and rapists, then white is better. You should remember we are not in the nirvana world. We are in the imperfect world where conventional wisdom rules. Escapism or nihilism does not work fine.   Anthony --- On Sun, 15/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez

Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka?

2010-08-15 Thread Maria Lopez
, as it stands, is meaningless.  --ED   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Anthony;    You didn't answer the question.  You limited the question tje skin of people.  You gave a mental image that you imagined. This is again a job of the ego or the self. I repeat

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-15 Thread Maria Lopez
@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 15 August, 2010, 14:46   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Welcome to the zen forum DP;   What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?.  What's that about?. I could try to explain it myself, but these do it better... http

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-16 Thread Maria Lopez
Dear DP:   Don't take too seriously anything you read in forums and internet in general.  Your questions are difficult questions to be answered by the ones who have not in them the OCD experience.  Only yourself can answer all those questions but if you can't find any answer in you yet, then

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-18 Thread Maria Lopez
meaning or resonance. I can't enjoy or feel anything when I embrace fear. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Dear DP:   Don't take too seriously anything you read in forums and internet in general.  Your questions are difficult questions to be answered

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-18 Thread Maria Lopez
is the only I know. If anyone else in the list knows other methods, please do say so.   Mayka --- On Wed, 18/8/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 18 August

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-18 Thread Maria Lopez
tears in rain. I feel like all the sweet things I taste, all the books I enjoy, etc. ultimately have no meaning, and are therefore worthless. The berries don't taste sweet, they taste like ash at that point. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: DP:   Knowing

Re: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-18 Thread Maria Lopez
on with life. --ED PS: Consider not even believing the answers you find in yourself - they will be ever-changing!   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Dear DP:    Don't take too seriously anything you read in forums and internet in general.  Your questions

RE: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-19 Thread Maria Lopez
I've enjoyed the Korean story.  Can  I copy and paste to my FB?. Thanks Bill!. Mayka --- On Thu, 19/8/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Namaste- first message To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday,

RE: [Zen] Namaste- first message

2010-08-22 Thread Maria Lopez
this story.  It is not copyrighted…Bill!   From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:45 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Namaste- first message     I've enjoyed the Korean story.  Can

Re: [Zen] Re: Death

2010-08-30 Thread Maria Lopez
DP:   I also sense that fear of death is also fear of life.  I suppose that when one lives in the present moment, which I can assure you is pretty difficult to do,  A lot of the fears seem to lessen more and more.  On the other way round, when I forget to be fully present in my body and mind in

Re: [Zen] Does anybody here write Haiku?

2010-09-01 Thread Maria Lopez
Making up this one right now, though not sure if is a kaiku or what:   From the sea To the sea Here and Now fear is hugged.   Mayka   --- On Tue, 31/8/10, DP dave.dplat...@gmail.com wrote: From: DP dave.dplat...@gmail.com Subject: [Zen] Does anybody here write Haiku? To:

Re: [Zen] Practical Mysticism - Evelyn Underhill

2010-09-10 Thread Maria Lopez
Kirk wrote:   In this respect Zen shares a great deal in common with Sufism, although the methods might be a great deal different.   I've found it that while sensing through the universal heart beyond any duality there is no suffism and not even zen.  At those moments there is just,  what there

RE: [Zen] Other traditions

2010-09-11 Thread Maria Lopez
in unfair and try to wish it away, but these are the facts.   …Bill!     From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:20 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Other traditions     Bill

RE: [Zen] Other traditions

2010-09-12 Thread Maria Lopez
modified by the French. That is maybe true. The USA should be divided into hundreds of Indian Reserves and Chinese, Latin American and African 'countries', because they are all different.   Anthony --- On Sat, 11/9/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel

RE: [Zen] The Vasque Country

2010-09-13 Thread Maria Lopez
just saying that at this time Tibet does not have an independent country. They are part of China. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:23 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] The Vasque

RE: [Zen] Other traditions

2010-09-13 Thread Maria Lopez
opinions and the reason I don't have much respect for the Dalai Lama. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:08 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Other traditions Bill: Can you

Re: [Zen] Can I practise Zen and still believe in God?

2010-09-15 Thread Maria Lopez
Hi DP;   You may enjoy to see and hear this video.  The mantra is; NAMO AVALOKITESVARA.    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddQD3s92cYc   Mayka --- On Thu, 16/9/10, DP wookielife...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: DP wookielife...@yahoo.ca Subject: [Zen] Can I practise Zen and still believe in God? To:

Re: [Zen] Dharma talks

2010-09-17 Thread Maria Lopez
  Hello DP, ED  and all:   There is this video that can lead to the website of this buddhist group from Australia who sound pretty good to me as the classes are very easy going with a realistic western way of communication.  And this Teacher is also very funny which it makes the dharma much

Re: [Zen] Introduction to the group

2010-09-18 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello Audrey:   Thank you for introducing yourself and tell us a little bit about you.  We have times in which the forum gets a little busy and other times that is quiet.  When the forum is busy then is easy to miss out posting from newcomers into the forum.  Very glad I didn't miss out your

[Zen] Poem And Question

2010-09-18 Thread Maria Lopez
Thanks to Roloro or whoever inserted this inspiring  poem.  I wonder what does the author of the poem means by: No person in purple. Does anyone knows?.  Thank you!!   Daily, nothing particular, Only nodding to myself, Nothing to choose, nothing to discard. No coming, no going, No person in

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-18 Thread Maria Lopez
Thanks Mike for your thoughful post. Mayka     --- On Sat, 18/9/10, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 18 September, 2010, 12:51   Hi Audry and Artie,  

Re: [Zen] Dharma talks

2010-09-18 Thread Maria Lopez
: Saturday, 18 September, 2010, 15:58     --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Hello Mayka and All, Thank you for the link. I watched about ten minutes of his talk on 'fear'. He comes across as a clear and precise thinker, steeped in Dharma, and speaking

Re: [Zen] If you save a life

2010-09-19 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello Tim:   Preventing to commit suicide is a very noble intention. May I ask you how do you intent to prevent that to happen to your friend?.  What is going to be your action here to persuade your friend?.    Thanks Mayka         --- On Sun, 19/9/10, tim timg...@aol.com wrote: From: tim

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread Maria Lopez
Audrey Wrote: I asked myself, about a year ago, WHY our ancestors had better technology (and therefore an advantage in conquering less developed nations. --- The expression of  less develop nations is no more than a very

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-19 Thread Maria Lopez
of the large mammals that were here when they got here.  People are people; look to the conditions to explain the differences.   --Chris On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: Audrey Wrote: I asked myself, about a year ago, WHY our ancestors had

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-20 Thread Maria Lopez
...@austin-lane.net Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 20 September, 2010, 4:27   The sentence I was disagreeing with is:  On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: My view about the human race

Re: [Zen] Re: Sharing religions

2010-09-20 Thread Maria Lopez
  Hi Mayka- -- On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: The expression of  less develop nations is no more than a very ignorant idea invading countries have over other countries to excuse themselves

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
Hi Mike and Everyone!   If everytime one has a dissapointment in any established religious institution whether that dissapointment was in Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Zen Buddhist, etc, etc institutions:  and  afterwards acts as a destructor towards the institution from which

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Hi Mike and Everyone!   If everytime one has a dissapointment in any established religious institution whether that dissapointment was in Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Zen Buddhist, etc, etc institutions:  andÂ

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
: Monday, 4 October, 2010, 16:05   Hi Mayka, Welcome to the real world of humans, whose intrinsic non-Buddha nature (as it has evolved) is self-interest. ;-)  --ED   --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: Hi Mike and Everyone!   If everytime one has a dissapointment

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
going to begin with the institutionalised cover-up of child rape by the Catholic church.. Mike From: Maria Lopez flordel...@... To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 22:51:51 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
with the institutionalised cover-up of child rape by the Catholic church.. Mike From: Maria Lopez flordel...@... To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 22:51:51 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your

Re: [Zen] Re: 'Having a problem with somebody' - Bill, et al

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
Hi Rose!   Just to let you know that I'm sorry to hear about your sentimental and family worries and the hard time you are having.  Perhaps you may feel more released if just sit down and breathe in awareness.  Don't think about anything right now.  You need to stop the activities in the mind. 

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-04 Thread Maria Lopez
was mentally sick. But deny evolution (despite the overwhelming scientific eveidence) and that's ok because I claim to have 'faith' in a bronze-age myth. And I'm not even going to begin with the institutionalised cover-up of child rape by the Catholic church..   Mike From: Maria Lopez

Re: [Zen] Re: 'Having a problem with somebody' - Bill, et al

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
to do it though..that's what's interesting to me. Not that I actively seek that point out of course.   Rose --- On Mon, 10/4/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: 'Having a problem with somebody' - Bill, et al

Re: RE: [Zen] Bible, God, etc.

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
, etc. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 5 October, 2010, 13:08   Maria,   My name is Kristy.  Please use my correct name or don't address me at all.  k --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re

Re: [Zen] Re: 'Having a problem with somebody' - Bill, et al

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
was unwell.   Rose   --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: 'Having a problem with somebody' - Bill, et al To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 11:31 AM   Rose:   I

Re: RE: [Zen] Bible, God, etc.

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
don't read them.  As said, it doesn't matter.  Just  don't bother to reply to  anything I might posts.  If you have further comments, please offer them off-list privately, as such a topic is not relevant to this group.    Be well.. Kristy --- On Tue, 10/5/10, Maria Lopez flordel

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
label assertion as 'agressive'.   Mike From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 5 October, 2010 1:57:06 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.   Mike:   In spite of being by nature a very passionate

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
For the kind of reaction that lady had over a miss spell name...start to understand your dislike of femenism. SOS!!! --- On Tue, 5/10/10, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-05 Thread Maria Lopez
: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 5 October, 2010, 15:28   Thank you, Mayka. I'm most definitely one man and not mice (I think you meant the singular 'mouse')  : )   Mike  From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-06 Thread Maria Lopez
. Always try to remember that communication by email if frought with dangers due to small nuances of communication being lost. I get the feeling that if you and Kristy ever met face to face you'd get on really well.   Mike From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-06 Thread Maria Lopez
, 10/5/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:09 AM   For the kind of reaction that lady

[Zen] Note

2010-10-06 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello all:   Whatever them has always welcome in this forum.  And that has made from this forum a nice one to participate on.  However, it has been noticeable to me  that the forum is getting less zen and more chatting and religious, politics themes.  That is gaining strenght and overtaking all

Re: [Zen] Note

2010-10-06 Thread Maria Lopez
things back on topic : )   Mike  From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com To: Zen Forum Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 7 October, 2010 3:26:17 Subject: [Zen] Note   Hello all:   Whatever them has always welcome in this forum.  And that has made from this forum a nice one

Re: [Zen] Note

2010-10-06 Thread Maria Lopez
is involved in everything, so we can roam to many realms. Don't worry, if it strays too far away, we have two moderators to pull it back.   Anthony --- On Thu, 7/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: [Zen] Note To: Zen Forum Zen_Forum

[Zen] Hearing of the Heart

2010-10-07 Thread Maria Lopez
I've found this video in the you tube and transmitted to me such a kind of blissful mental state that wanted to share with you all.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyDU5QwSSRU Mayka    

Re: [Zen] Note

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
. But to make it louder, you need a gong (mind you, the Americans pronounce it like a 'gang'. So you don't have it.   Anthony --- On Thu, 7/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Note To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello there;   I'm familiar with koans from the zen soto tradition.  I'm opened to hear anything that any members have to say about this subject.  Though have to say from begining that my interest here is about the insight experience such of such koan gives to one.  I understand that insight

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
I meant in previous post: I am not familiar with soto zen koans. --- On Fri, 8/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Zen] New member. To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 8 October, 2010, 9:37   Hello

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-08 Thread Maria Lopez
Thanks Jody.  Doesn't the Soto tradition uses koans?.   Should be understood them that slaps the lady received in the koan given,  were defectuos because nobody can awake anybody else except for oneselves?   Mayka     --- On Fri, 8/10/10, Jody W. Ianuzzi j...@thewhitehats.com wrote: From: Jody

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-09 Thread Maria Lopez
’ to a lady in the koan that was posted a couple days ago.   …Bill!   From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 4:19 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] New member.     Thanks Jody

Re: [Zen] What Mind

2010-10-09 Thread Maria Lopez
JMJM:   The mind is not separated from the body.  One of the practical meaning of sitting down is to put together mind and body.  The awareness of the in and out breathing acts as our anchor, our guard, our guide, our teacher, our friend...When a sensation, thought or whatever arises it's very

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-09 Thread Maria Lopez
[mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 4:19 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] New member.     Thanks Jody.  Doesn't the Soto tradition uses koans?.   Should be understood them that slaps the lady received in the koan given,  were

RE: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-10 Thread Maria Lopez
!   From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 4:19 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] New member.     Thanks Jody.  Doesn't the Soto tradition uses koans?.   Should be understood them

Re: [Zen] Re: Quaker 'meditation'

2010-10-10 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello Mel:   The awareness of the breathing while doing activities does not require of any particular posture but just awareness of the movements of the body...doesn't requires to walk as if one was at a low speed motion.  One could perfectly make use of the awareness of the breathing while

Re: [Zen] Mindfulness - awareness in the here and now

2010-10-11 Thread Maria Lopez
Hello Audrey:   I've enjoyed listening to your sharing.  Thank you.   The times I participated in retreats by TNH,  there is a daily sharing in the afternoon.  This sharing is part of the practise.  It's part of the retreat programme.  This practise is also made in the local sangha who usually

Re: [Zen] SSSSS

2010-10-12 Thread Maria Lopez
ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 10/11/2010 5:00 PM, Maria Lopez wrote:   JMJM;   Do you think that Is the chi what enhances awareness?.  My impression is  on the other way round and that is that awareness will enhance the chi.  Mayka     --- On Tue, 12/10

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-12 Thread Maria Lopez
and immediate and there are as many 'correct' answers as there are people.   Mike  From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 10 October, 2010 19:12:15 Subject: RE: [Zen] New member.   Good morning Bill:   I don't have the Microsoft package with word

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-13 Thread Maria Lopez
,   Sure. Which particular aspect of vipassana would you like me to elaborate on?   Mike From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 12 October, 2010 17:46:22 Subject: Re: [Zen] New member.   Mike:   I didn't see your posting as it keeps coming

Re: [Zen] New member.

2010-10-15 Thread Maria Lopez
Mike:   This of yours is a valuable sharing to me.  Thank you for it. I wish I could attend a retreat as the one you give description about.    It also sounds as this retreat was a big boost to yourself practise zen.  I come across years ago the sutra of the breathing translated by TNH. I had an

Re: [Zen] meditation bells

2010-10-16 Thread Maria Lopez
Jody:   Please mind that my say here is limited to the TNH tradition which is the one I'm more familiar with.  The bell is a very important tool in the TNH tradition and the person who ring the bell would have need to have been trained in the ringing of the bell. Differently the sound would be 

RE: [Zen] meditation bells

2010-10-17 Thread Maria Lopez
You're welcome Jody.   That very pleasant calming sound you mention in your post is produced not only because of the techniques used but also because of the calmness of the one who rings the bell.  In order to get into that stillness state of body and mind:  I try to write in a very, very 

RE: [Zen] meditation bells

2010-10-17 Thread Maria Lopez
next ring. It may sound all of it a little bit complicated because it comes in writing but in practise it's not.    Mayka --- On Sun, 17/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [Zen] meditation bells To: Zen_Forum

RE: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.

2010-10-17 Thread Maria Lopez
Very good answer Bill!.  I like the most the expression comrades..Hehehe...!!! --- On Sun, 17/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. To:

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-18 Thread Maria Lopez
Hi ED:   Just for the seek of responding your posting questionnaire.  Though, don't take too seriously any responses from me or anyone or you run the risk of finding yourself more disorientated than before asking any question. --- On Mon, 18/10/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-18 Thread Maria Lopez
ED: What are the most common motivations and expectations that direct individuals toward zen practice? Mayka: No motivation, no expectations.  No search for zen.  No interest for zen. The only thing is that after going in circles and just by a chance one day one discovers that there is:

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-18 Thread Maria Lopez
Ok ED:   Since your valuation of zen is limited to recognised zen Masters and not as much by the non famous, I'd like give you another clue this time by  Master Dogen: If you want to know me, meet me at zazen   Mayka --- On Mon, 18/10/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote: From

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-18 Thread Maria Lopez
  --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote: ED: What are the most common motivations and expectations that direct individuals toward zen practice?   Mayka: No motivation, no expectations.  No search for zen.  No interest for zen. The only thing is that after going in circles

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