[Zen] A white lotus flower to everyone

2007-01-21 Thread Mayka
Hello everyone, My name is Maria Mayka and have been a practicioner of zen for several years. The only zen Master Teacher I have known and experienced through the years has been Vietnamese Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. I have joined this group mostly to learn, practice and share life

Re: [Zen] A white lotus flower to everyone

2007-01-21 Thread Mayka
practice together and exchange our real experiencies. This is all what I meant. A white Lotus from Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http

[Zen] Re: A white lotus flower to everyone

2007-01-21 Thread Mayka
spent in the practice I am still a beginer. In fact, It embarrase me to tell about years in the practice. What I have learnt?, It should be better to ask me what I have no learnt. A white lotus flower to you from Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read

[Zen] Negative Emotions and Negative Habit Energies

2007-01-21 Thread Mayka
that I can have the support of a sangha. Do you have yourselves negative emotions?. How do you deal with them?. Please share with the group your all experiences. Thank you Donald for your suggestions. A white flower to you all from: Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you

Re: [Zen] A white lotus flower to everyone

2007-01-22 Thread Mayka
Dear Bill: Do you feel yourself as an enlightened person?. It seems as my piece of written has offended your ego. Sorry, I didn't mean!. Have a good practice day Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups

Re: [Zen] Negative Emotions and Negative Habit Energies

2007-01-22 Thread Mayka
. There is no better or worse way and this is why the sharing with other practicioners is of great enrichement. I truly value your comments and the rest of the group. A white lotus flower from Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today

Re: [Zen] Negative Emotions and Negative Habit Energies

2007-01-22 Thread Mayka
problem, free of any obstacle. But I do not force the breath, I just let it be. It is very new for me to hear that you don't embrace your suffering. Interesting way that I would love you share with all of us. Dear Mayka, I sense from your first post, that you were looking

[Zen] Thank You

2007-01-24 Thread Mayka
to me that I have a lot new things to learn from you tradition and do not mind to be told or corrected. Thank you so much to you all. A kind bow from: Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[Zen] Principle

2007-01-27 Thread Mayka
When we are hungry, we eat When we are thirsty, we drink when we are tired of living, we die. Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com

Re: [Zen] Principle

2007-01-28 Thread Mayka
Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka wrote: When we are hungry, we eat When we are thirsty, we drink when we are tired of living, we die. Mayka Mayka, These three are not quite the same. Practicing zen does enable you to be more in tune

Re: [Zen] Principle

2007-01-28 Thread Mayka
Brilliant Bill! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka wrote: When we are hungry, we eat When we are thirsty, we drink when we are tired of living, we die. Mayka When we are hungry, we eat. When we are thirsty, we drink. When we

[Zen] Solemn friends

2007-01-29 Thread Mayka
Friends you seems so solemn and strict in your all practice that you have nothing to share!. Love from Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http

Re: [Zen] Solemn friends

2007-01-29 Thread Mayka
Sorry Bill, sorry all. That was a most unkind thought and apologise for it Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka wrote: Friends you seems so solemn and strict in your all practice that you have nothing to share!. Love from Mayka What

Re: [Zen] Solemn friends

2007-01-30 Thread Mayka
! Gasho (Whatever it means) Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Phillip Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, I understand fully. While I do think that they take it seriously, I am sure that Thich Nhat Hanh does as well. What I am trying to say is that we mean no harm or insult in our

[Zen] A whole Brand New Day

2007-01-31 Thread Mayka
answered that I am in a whole brand new day Mayka [:)]

[Zen] Re: Diamond Sutra?

2007-02-02 Thread Mayka
in a very basic way, the truth about interbeing while yours keeps on the individual self. However, perhaps there is an English error and it should be reading: I am you You are me we are One Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am you You is me We are One

[Zen] Re: Diamond Sutra?

2007-02-02 Thread Mayka
More English errors corrected: -- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill; I Thank you for your feedback, but in this case I do not accept your correction as it does not correspond to the insight of the Diamond Sutra. Zen poetry can not be understood

[Zen] Re: Diamond Sutra?

2007-02-02 Thread Mayka
and the Prajnaparamitra sutras are sutras for life. The most one meditates on them the richest became the insights they to one. SAMSARA: Every time that we are truly mindful, we are not any longer into samsara. Every time we loose our mindfulness we get into samsara. A kind bow from Mayka

[Zen] Re: Diamond Sutra?

2007-02-02 Thread Mayka
enlightenement: there is no way to enlightenment, enlightenment is the way. And the same is with peace. In fact Thich Nhat Hanh makes this statemant of peace: There is no way to peace, peace is the way. A white flower lotus to you Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Phillip Rogers [EMAIL

[Zen] Re: Diamond Sutra?

2007-02-03 Thread Mayka
you and you just were singing in togethernes with me!. Thank you Bill for your patient, mindfulness and insight. A kind bow from Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, The poem I wrote back to you was not a correction; it was a response. I

[Zen] Life is a Dream

2007-02-06 Thread Mayka
Sueña el rey que es rey, y vive con este engaño mandando, disponiendo y gobernando; y este aplauso, que recibe prestado, en el viento escribe, 5 y en cenizas le convierte la muerte, ¡desdicha fuerte! ¿Que hay quien intente reinar, viendo que ha de despertar en el sueño de la muerte? 10 Sueña el

Re: [Zen] Life is a Dream

2007-02-07 Thread Mayka
us a little bit what is about and its insight to you. Thanks for your feedback With respect Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, now, what if I answer this Spanish post with some Chinese ones Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Zen] Peace

2007-02-27 Thread Mayka
Bill wrote: Or, if you'd prefer not try to explain the contrast, what do you mean when you say 'aspiration'? Mayka Answers: Aspiration is free of desire. It is like when you see a living Buddha, you would like to became one but you are not caught in that desire. There is no attachment

Re: [Zen] Peace

2007-03-03 Thread Mayka
Bill Wrote: Why do you believe you are not a living Buddha yourself, and that there is nothing else that you need to become? .Bill! Mayka answers: A real living Buddha has free his/her mind and I haven't achieved that yet. So, I can not call myself a living Buddha but someone

Re: [Zen] Peace

2007-03-04 Thread Mayka
it is to you?. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning Bill, Mayka's answer typifies one of the major difference between a Chinese Linage and wester Zen. This is what I have discovered after learning about Zen in English. Most

Re: [Zen] Peace

2007-03-04 Thread Mayka
Dear Bill At the end you or me or the both us lost the real point which is shows how useless and what a waste of time trying to explain things to people who have already many preconcepts in their minds. Yes I am very happy to be the endless begginer. What about you? Mayka

[Zen] Re: Stimulation

2007-04-17 Thread Mayka
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the differences between 'zen' and 'buddhism'? Dear Bill: What an extraordinary question you ask! I'm a zen buddhist practicioner. What is the difference between Bill and Smart?. Mayka Current Book Discussion

Re: [Zen] Peace

2007-04-17 Thread Mayka
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, Every morning I begin a journey. Every night the journey ends. Bill: When occasionaly I touch the depths of the present moment I seem to be in an endless journey with no begining and not end. At that moment

Re: [Zen] Peace

2007-04-17 Thread Mayka
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum% 40yahoogroups.com , Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: Mayka, Every morning I begin a journey. Every night the journey ends. Bill: When occasionaly I touch the depths

[Zen] Re: Stimulation

2007-04-17 Thread Mayka
Dear Bill: Playing with words won't increment your understanding but all the same you're good fun. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum% 40yahoogroups.com , Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote: What

Re: [Zen] Chan - a true spirituality - the Inner Self

2008-09-10 Thread Mayka
of our life. Making it real, truly alive, truthful, beatiful and good. Taking good care of the weeds. With peace, perseverance and disciplining our undisciplined minds. Greetings to all MAYKA --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[Zen] Re: Chan - a true spirituality - the Inner Self

2008-09-10 Thread Mayka
in the sea of life but with love at my side everthing becames like an adventure. And I love it!!! Blessed be Maya! Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

[Zen] Re: women zen

2008-10-05 Thread Mayka
hungry I eat. Welcome again MAYKA I think one should attend to ones' own morals and ethics and let others tend to theirs. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

[Zen] Re: women zen

2008-10-05 Thread Mayka
either. It's actually very nice to have someone so dynamic like you in the forum. Thank you for being here. Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

[Zen] Re: Come back to Aging and Zen

2008-10-05 Thread Mayka
, the suffering and pain in the body and the leaving of the body. I suppose that the best way to release a little of that fear if to practice Compassion peace at each moment of our present moment. Have a good Sunday Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book

[Zen] Re: Come back to Aging and Zen

2008-10-05 Thread Mayka
in peace. Thanks for writing Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your

[Zen] Re: Come back to Aging and Zen

2008-10-05 Thread Mayka
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka,   Suffering after death, if there is any, is part of 'not dying in peace'. If there is none, thank god. Hi Anthony; Let's not worry too muich about if there is suffering or not after death. Let's do worry

[Zen] Re: Come back to Aging and Zen

2008-10-05 Thread Mayka
Sorry I have had an error in this sentece It has also helped me to live in a deeper way my life and BE A LITTLE BE FRIVOLOUS. I meant A LITTLE BIT LESS FRIVOLOUS Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wuasg@ wrote

[Zen] Re: Come back to Aging and Zen

2008-10-07 Thread Mayka
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, Always live one's life so you are ready to leave at a moment's notice with no attachments and everything left in order... No packed suitcases Edgar Easy to say but not as easy to be accomplished

[Zen] Re: women zen

2008-10-07 Thread Mayka
not good or bad. But a flowing energy in continous evolution. Thanks for posting Mayka I am talking about recent research written about by Helen Fisher (physical anthropology). Fisher has several books out. Also research done in the late 70's by the woman who wrote Love And Limmerance, whose

[Zen] Re: Blind buddhist

2008-10-07 Thread Mayka
Dear Jody; Thank you for your courage, acceptance and the teaching you give us here. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jody W. Ianuzzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Edgar and all, I have gotten several private emails asking me how I use the computer so I thought I would answer

[Zen] Re: Zen and Accountability

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
such a profound impact as this time. Thanks a lot for it. Mayka From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:27 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Zen] Re: Zen and Accountability

[Zen] Re: Moral moralistic

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
connotations. There is no insight to it but narrowness in the individual or collective mind. I didn't hear the talk JM mentions here and I may be wrong in my interpretation. Please to meet you Jackson Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jackson Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jue Miao

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
as something you have realice within yourself, then you're safe. But if that is something you've just heard with no direct experience or realization of the meaning within yourself...Then you might be better dropping. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
Hi Margie! If this is yor way of understandign no wonder you feel so rebelious about morals and morality!. I would react in the same way as you! -- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, roloro1557 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka- By morals and morality I mean an imposed set of definitions

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
or morality. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, roloro1557 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka- I'm not sure what you mean, could you please explain further? Margie (roloro1557) --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka flordeloto@ wrote: Hi Margie! If this is yor way

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
but not go deep intolike a kind of death moral or in decay...which many follow but not many know the real meaning...A narrow way of real morality. I don't know. Please, you tell me. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, roloro1557 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka- I think

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-08 Thread Mayka
The single word you're looking for is perhaps mindullness? Just wonder Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony, I'll be happy to give you a single word that describes 'how to maintain peace and avoid turmoil': Mu! ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-09 Thread Mayka
had and have their own moral values. A person without moral values is a person of not being trusted. Thanks for posting Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makya, My view of morals is the same as Margie's. I define 'morals' as a code of conduct

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-09 Thread Mayka
hehehe!!! I didn't realice about the misspelling!. But it came a very funny word. Thanks for the correction Edgar! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, Mind dull ness? Don't you mean Mind full ness? Very funny misspelling Mr. Freud

[Zen] Re: Aging and Zen

2008-10-09 Thread Mayka
, direct experience his own moral values. Moral values are just a pure guide. It's the same with the precepts or mindfullness Trainings from TNH. Are not things to be followed literally but to be developed by oneself sensitivity and open mind. Thanks for posting Mayka --- In Zen_Forum

[Zen] Re: meditation

2008-10-11 Thread Mayka
Dear Jamie; Welcome to us. I was your age When I started. Though age is not very important here. I think that Bill has already said everything that needs to be said. Good luck to you! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, jamiewhite2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what

[Zen] The Nature of consciousness, Part 2 Manas

2008-10-13 Thread Mayka
, and stored consciousness is released from Manas. I'll be sending the next verses soon. Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go

[Zen] TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 3 Mind Consciousness

2008-10-13 Thread Mayka
Part Three. Mind Consciousness Twenty-Three With Manas as its base and phenomena as its objects, mind consciousness manifests itself. Its sphere of cognition is the broadest. Twenty-Four Mind consciousness has three modes of perception. It has access to the three fields of perception and is

[Zen] TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-14 Thread Mayka
Part 4, Sense Consciousness Twenty-Eight Based on mind consciousness. The five sense consciousness separately or together with mind consciousness, manifest like waves on water. Twenty-Nine The field of perception is things in themselves. Their mode of perception is direct. Their nature can be

[Zen] TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 5, The Nature of Realit

2008-10-16 Thread Mayka
Part Five – The Nature of Reality Thirty-One Consciousness always includes subject and object. Self and other, inside and outside, are all creation in the conceptual mind. Thirty-Two Consciousness has three parts- perceiver, perceived and wholesome. All seeds of mental formations are the

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-16 Thread Mayka
will. Thank you all for your participation in the forum. A big smile to you all Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, My knowledge and insight about consciousness is rather limited. And therefore open to intelectualization and what

Re: [Zen] Causality

2008-10-16 Thread Mayka
! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka (again!), Ah, interdependant co-origination! If you can understand this then you understand Buddhism (in a 'not knowing' kinda way!). And here we have the crux of the problem (as I see it) between Bill

Re: [Zen] Practical aspects of Causality

2008-10-16 Thread Mayka
Good post Mike! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Anthony, I'm not sure what I can help you with. You seem to be going through a period of soul-searching and asking yourself questions relating to morality, how to achieve world peace and various

[Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part 4, Sense Consciousness

2008-10-16 Thread Mayka
mindfullness in order to have them under control. My say was a general observation about the mind in the mind. Nothing personal at all. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edgar, Mark thinks it's off-topic. Mike thinks it's off-topic. Mayka thinks it's off-topic. I

[Zen] Re: TNH

2008-10-20 Thread Mayka
with any other Vietnameses Masters in different tradition from TNH. However, Within TNH tradition I have had the chance to meet and talk with some of them. I have only ten verses left to copy and send. I'll do that soon but not right now. Thanks for writing and enjoy your day Mayka

[Zen] Correction

2008-10-20 Thread Mayka
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...However, I have had the chance to meet some Masters within TNH tradition. Hi Chris; Excellent book the one you mention The Heart of the Buddha Teachings. Some different traditions have adopted it due to its clarity

[Zen] Re: Correction

2008-10-20 Thread Mayka
about it. Please tell me everything you know. Do they have a website?. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, We have a local temple here in Mansfield, TX. There is a group of Vietnamese Buddhist nuns who's master is Thich Than Thu (spelling). I

[Zen] Re: Correction

2008-10-22 Thread Mayka
in the whole world and his retreats are over crowded with lots of noise people. Not enough silence in them to concentrate as before. Thanks for writing Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, It's actually in a neighboring city of Rendon, TX. The zen

Re: [Zen] Causality

2008-10-22 Thread Mayka
in the castle of Edinburgh?. How it comes?. Are you Scotish?. Edinburgh is a very nice city though rather cold all the year through. A lotus flower to you Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, I had a look at the link you provided and your part

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Mayka
Bill; I've just send you the email and see what you mean!. You mean that one has to show the noodle before the water boils. This is because when the water boils one can't see the noodle, isn't it? You and your thoughtful questions... Enjoy!! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka

Re: [Zen] Causality

2008-10-23 Thread Mayka
Hi Mike; Are you Welsh?. I lived in Chester which is very close to welsh for about three years. I could never figure out how to pronounce the names of places in welsh. Nice people the welsh. I like their simplicity. Thanks for your interest about me. A big smile to you Mayka

[Zen] Re: Correction

2008-10-23 Thread Mayka
. They all teach the same. Their only variation is the method and the way the dharma is pass on. Good luck in your search Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Mayka
. I laugh a lot while reading your explanations. You have to admit that you've just created a very good koan with the noodles as internal knots and boiled water as the mind in turmoil!!. Our Mr. Macarroni must be pretty confuse by now...Hehehe!!! Enjoy! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Mayka
Hi Edgar; What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Mayka
Edgar; And who said the Buddha I spoke to was a man or a woman?. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, he gets around doesn't he! On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote: Hi Edgar; What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Mayka
PROTECTED] ps.com Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 10:39 PM Yea, he gets around doesn't he! On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote: Hi Edgar; What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil! Mayka

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-28 Thread Mayka
know that already, wouldn't be more clever to work towards the transformation of those negative emotions rather than let them to control our mind, actions and life?. But, thank you anyway for your good intentions and care. A white lotus flower to you Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

[Zen] Re: thoughtful story

2008-10-28 Thread Mayka
. The perspective of feeling truly alive. Hope this helps Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jody and Mayka,   I sort of disagree with the concluding remark, 'while we are here, we might as well dance.'  That is as much as saying, 'we might as well get

[Zen] Re: thoughtful story

2008-10-28 Thread Mayka
what is going on within and around us. If not, what would be the point of practicing?. Thanks for your sharing Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

Re: [Zen] thoughtful story

2008-10-29 Thread Mayka
three paragrapshs. All the rest is just an illustration to make stronger the last three paragraphs. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jody, A nice story, but I'm afraid it's not quite zen. The taxi-driver is being dangerously sentimental

Re: [Zen] thoughtful story

2008-10-29 Thread Mayka
. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree. Living zen is not about acting from feelings of sentimentality. Sentimentality is about seeing the world thru' rose-coloured glasses and not how things

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-10-31 Thread Mayka
or RUNNING AFTER the future. Every journey starts with a first step. You practice zen for the same reason you eat when you're hungry and sleep when you're tired. No goals, no worry, no cravings, no aspirations - Just THIS! Good for you Bill! Mayka

[Zen] Re: Question?

2008-11-01 Thread Mayka
, Chris, Anthony, Margie...The present moment is our ship. We are the captains of our own ship. We let oneselves go in the flow beyond space and time. Good luck with your practice Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jody W. Ianuzzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Blesses Buddha responded

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-01 Thread Mayka
. In zen we don't think of the path because we don't have a path. We follow the continuos thread of the present moment and that is what mark our path. Let's listening to what other members have to say about your questions. A Scottish Automm Leaf to you Mayka --- In Zen_Forum

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-02 Thread Mayka
Hi Mike; Which post regarding hope you're refering to?. Can you copy and paste it here so that I know what are you trying to tell me?. Thanks Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, The quote you gave below seems to somewhat contradict your

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-02 Thread Mayka
of the activities you're doing. Very difficult to manage. I believe that. Tell me about it!!!. But that is the practice. If you're walking, you try no to chew you to start with. In fact the same practice put you off of chewing anything while you're walking. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-02 Thread Mayka
practice. It can be boring and tedious. I only said that is the practice of the present moment in which the tool of breathing in awareness is used. Probably we both are trying to say the same but somehow we're getting entangled with words. The web is not an easy medium to express zen. Mayka

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mayka
Hi Mike; Sorry but I see no contradition. Unless you explain where do you see the contradition, no idea what you mean. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, I hope this helps to clarify. You wrote: Third Paragraph; (I've copied

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mayka
? Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning Edgar; You're absolutely right the body is always doing many things all at once. The practice is to be aware about what is happening in the body and in the mind and also surroundings. Whether we achieve

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mayka
there wouldn't be reality. My Teacher says that enlightenment, nirvana is made with no elements of nirvana. I think that what he means by that is that both relate to each other and both are one. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, I disagree with Edgar

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mayka
to send to your personal email address the post. Perhaps Mike Brown could do the same meantime. Once you receive our both post throgh the group let us know and we'll stop sending you our post twice your personal email and to the group. I write to you from the website now. Mayka is in Vasque language

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mayka
Edgar; If you open yourself in awareness to the flow of the Tao. Your action is not automatic but in awareness. Whatever you say to me there is a negative connotation in the word automatic. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, Action

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mayka
Edgar; That's sounds a refreshing experience. Basque from the Basque Country. Mayka -- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, and Bill, Is Vasque same as Basque? Re 'wonderful moment'. In different senses both Mayka and Bill are correct here. Since

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-04 Thread Mayka
response to your post in relation with last paragraph from Jody's story. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mayka, The contradiction lies in the fact that you disagreed with my saying that when we hope for something/or some future situation we don't

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-04 Thread Mayka
Anthony; The Buddha also said: Do not believe in anything I say but first experience it by yourself. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edgar and Mayka,   Please be reminded that the question whether the mind is the same as or different from

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-04 Thread Mayka
worldwide local lay sanghas because there is something false about them and also because they make from the Master a kind of God Zen Buddhist Guru and consequently there is no place for anything else but just the SELF Master. I rather have the best from his Buddha nature. Mayka

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-05 Thread Mayka
are automatically one. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka,   So you are saying you had an experience that your mind was one with your body. So Buddha's two sayings contradict each other. Right?   Regards, Anthony --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Mayka

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-05 Thread Mayka
Give up Anthony and instead have some good laugh http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X_1qq46eW9o --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka,   To be more exact, you are saying your mind is in complete control of your body, when you do the breathing

[Zen] Re: Where's Bill?

2008-11-08 Thread Mayka
Dear Bill; My condolences for the death of your father. May he rests in peace.May you be well and back soon to us. You'll be missed in the Zen Forum very much. A warm hug in solidarity to you and your family Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[Zen] Re: Position of Karma in Zen

2008-11-24 Thread Mayka
and emptiness is form and that is the same with all senses. I'm pointing quite strong this because Bill seems to forget about that. Please keep the debate going. I love it! Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edgar, I think we're getting dangerously

Re: [Zen] Position of Karma in Zen

2008-11-24 Thread Mayka
think? Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony, None of the below. Karma is a fairy tale for adults who are suffering in this life, telling them things will be better in the next if they behave themselves and don't cause problems in this one

Re: [Zen] Position of Karma in Zen

2008-11-25 Thread Mayka
as consequences whether positive or negative of that actions. One just need to observe all this in order to see that this is like this and not just an idea. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mayka, Exactly. Karma is not the same as cause and effect

[Zen] Re: Position of Karma in Zen

2008-11-25 Thread Mayka
Hi Mike! Good post!. I've found it simple and very insighful. Thanks for it and also thanks for your kind note in connection with the health of my sister and myself. A big smile to you Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, As so happens

Re: [Zen] Position of Karma in Zen_Correction

2008-11-25 Thread Mayka
daily personal actions and the reaction of our actions as a result of it. Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen edgarowen@ wrote: Mayka, Exactly. Karma is not the same as cause and effect. Cause and effect are the rules of science by which the universe

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