You could try and write a poem. You could start with, There was an old man
called Bill who.. etc etc.
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald
Hwong,
You're right, of course, and I wrestle with this each time I sit down
to write a post - how can I best
not necessarily
depend on rationality. How about a haiku?
Young fox pokes old bear,
Bear smiles, revealing long fangs,
Fur flies, brown and red.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You could try and write a poem. You could start with, There was an
old
Yeah true, they're vulgar and earthy - but they don't stink.
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, a limerick?
I assumed they were passe,
But what do I know?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, haiku stinks.
There was a young fox (who
Haha! Well said - a fart would have been much better!
Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Limited Time Only $5
5-7-5 meter
a grasping student
stinking of wisdom farted
at the zen forum
mocking Dogen and
other zen masters was easy
understanding was not
There was an old Bill
who looked
Hi cid! I think Al is a great teacher for you. You've already answered your own
post - now just put it into practice...
cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There you go again, Al... Did you
not invite direct email in a prior
post? Yes, a discussion of various topics in a park can be
I prefer the hum of my computer. The delete button can take care of the bear
poop. Good morning, Bill!
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The
stealthy fox slips silently into your lair,
Stealing you blind while you sleep,
Awaking bewildered, not knowing what
The heart of the subject is the same.
anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Same thing, Zen comes from
Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it
from India.
Just a matter of semantics but subject is the same.
Guy
In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What
? If no, why? If not,
why?
Thanks...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote:
The heart of the subject is the same.
anatmanwave anatmanwave@ wrote: ---Same thing, Zen
comes from Chan from the Chinese, they morphed it
from India.
Just a matter of semantics
Or maybe the raft fee is $5?
Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: anatmanwave Yes you can
practice Zen without offically
becoming a Buddhist.
Don't forget to send me your $5 donation for the I AM A BUDDHIST
membership card.
Remember cid830, nothing is good or bad. Only thinking makes it so
(Shakespeare).
Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: cid830 reading these posts have
brought forth resentment.
Resentment for the practitioner I once was. I now realize how far from the
Path I have strayed. Humbly, I am
Let me amend that - a raft disposal collection fee.
Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: anatmanwave Yes you can
practice Zen without offically
becoming a Buddhist.
Don't forget to send me your $5 donation for the I AM A BUDDHIST
membership card.
Good idea! It's probably down the back of the sofa.
anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---You want to know what Zen
is? Clean your house. Guy
In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think so too - and if that's the case I'd like to make the most
of
@yahoogroups.com, anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---lol,in the cleaning of it at least.Guy
In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote:
Good idea! It's probably down the back of the sofa.
anatmanwave anatmanwave@ wrote: ---You want to know
what Zen is? Clean your house. Guy
I know what you mean. Brings on a totally new meaning to Unmon's: If you walk,
just walk. If you sit; just sit; but whatever you do, don't wobble. Maybe in
a modern context that would have been his warning to his co-driver if they'd
been pulled over..
Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I
Heart mind, ground of being, 'the Self (but not the self), Man is God, God is
Man' (but not man), 'where the shrill of the pheasant swallows the field'... or
if you like, 'the place where the answer lies before we open our mouths'. All
of which are perfectly subjective and at the same time
Middle finger swallows the moon
and yet,
the fragrance of nutsacks.
craig omanion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The middle finger pointing at the moon
is not the moon
not is it the moons middle finger
craig
mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
Middle finger
Thanks Robert! Of course, I should have used 'slug' not bullet to conform to
the 'ghetto' .357 haiku format so thanks for making me aware. :)
Robert Kirbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:13:04 -0800,
mike brown
wrote:
Gun shoots bullet,
Hole where head should be,
Hot
I think I corrected this in an earlier post ('slug' instead od bullet) to
conform to the .357 'magnu,' form. But it's all a work in progress...
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Haiku is 4-5-7. What gives?
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED
Excuse the rushed spelling - 'magnum'.
mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I corrected this in an
earlier post ('slug' instead od bullet) to conform to the .357 'magnu,' form.
But it's all a work in progress...
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Haiku is 4-5-7
Me too! But it's 'how' we move which determines the zen..
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Move to a different carriageâ¦Bill!
When the old drunk guy sitting next to you on the train farts and shits
himself and the odour fills the carriage - are
...then were something more...
Robert Kirbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:04:54 -0800,
anatmanwave
wrote:
--- Just be with the smell of shit till i can get off. This is the
reality of the situation. Maybe offer the guy a few kind words, I
could only imagine his
... now they're just mountains once more.
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ZenBob,
Thanks for your excellent post.
Before I continue I want to make sure my posts are received as I intend them.
Ive been accused in the past of sounding
on the carpet I'll have to clean
it. Right, I'll get up but the mutt's gonna get a kick for this Or do we
choose, Oh shit... and just get out of bed and let him out?
Robert Kirbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:54:11 -0800,
mike brown
wrote:
Notice there is a complete
Interesting. I'm no student of either tanka or haiku, but the line Autumn
cries for spring... is completely at odds with the spirit of zen (well, haiku
at least - but not sure about tanka). Autumn does no such thing. Sounds like
the poetry of Keats or Shelley claiming that the 'trees mourn
Haha! And Chairman Mao would crack your nutsack with that bit of selective
propoganda. (read what followed after I wrote that sentence)...
Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mike brown
Autumn cries for spring... is completely at odds with
the spirit of zen
Holy
Robert. Being a bit touchy there, aren't you? The critique was a well founded
one regarding zen and the impossible sentimentality of the seasons (this is
just not Zen). It had nothing to do whatsoever with your reconciliation with
anyone. If such a comment has the power to cast a shadow... in
I guess you've gone out of town for a while, but I hope we can continue with
this thread when you're back. I have the feeling it'll be good fun! (but I
still know I'm correct...). Gone fishing, Mike.
Robert Kirbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:23:09 -0800,
mike brown
wrote
Hi Bill. I don't have much to say about your words regarding sentient beings,
Christianity and Enlightenment because I think our views are in accord.
However, I'd just like to add that in discussions about zen and the bodhisattva
ideal there is often some confusion about what this actually
Bill wrote:
One of his students, Mahakashyapa, smiled indicating he had received
Buddhas teachings. He became the first Patriarch of zen.
Jeff
Bill is like a prudent old grandpa who only offers you only one sweet knowing
full well that anymore will make your teeth fall out. But also he
Hi Craig. Yes, I agree - this is a good group right now (I couldn't help that
asside either!). For me, I try to get past the idea of even a mystery because
that separates us into a BIG question seeking one BIG answer, whereas our lives
are really one Big Question/Answer. What works for me
Bill wrote:
I was not right, I spoke too much.
Yes. What a pity you couldn't tweak his nose. You can do much better ferrying
like that.
-
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shore (religious
regalia is optional). Mike.
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, Jan 10 Mike Brown
wrote:
Yes. What a pity you couldn't tweak his nose. You can do much better
ferrying like that.
Excellent idea! Now what would be the key-strokes for 'tweak nose'? How
about
... boo!
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Boo who?
Why are you upset?
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Whatever happened to Rev Fudo and Genryu? I remember reading their posts before
I went to Japan, but then I stopped reading any forum posts until recently.
Were these the said victims?
- Original Message
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 15
Yep, there's certainly alot of cheese here to catch a mouse from time to time.
Er, although not from me of course..
- Original Message
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January, 2008 5:01:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: no death
From: mike brown
the lives of others.
Neither way is wrong, and neither way is the only way.
Glad you’re back…Bill!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com [mailto:Zen_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com] On Behalf
Of mike brown
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Subject: Re: SV: RE: [Zen] Re: D.L.
Hi
Hi Al,
I remember those heady days when Fudo and Genryu were `patrolling` this forum
and I learnt a lot from them too. In fact, it was partly thru` Fudo`s
contribution that I went to Japan. However, after over 3 years of living there
I came to the conclusion that following a Japanese form of
Bill: `...a long-haired, bearded hippie`.I knew it! I knew it! Add
clairvoyant to my list of many titles.
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Chris wrote:
Thanks
The Pope of Zen
Chris, don`t take what you see, read or hear about yourself so personally. And
especially don`t carry around with you the anger or resentment you feel is
just. Al`s comment about you being the `pope of zen` was a long time ago but by
holding on to it the
!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of
mike brown
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Helping Others
Bill: `...a long-haired, bearded hippie`. I knew it! I knew it! Add clairvoyant
to my list of many
!
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Nah, old hippies never die - they just smell that way!! :)
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Hi Chris. No-one can piss for you and conversely you can`t piss for anyone
else. If people choose not to respond to a perceived insult that is their
choice. Furthermore, it might only be you who believes it to be an insult in
the first point. There is a teaching technique in Buddhism called
Yep. From Bill this should have read:
. When hungry I eat.
.When tired I sleep.
.When rested I wake.. man.
.Bill
- Original Message
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 February, 2008 12:36:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Intro
From: Perhaps it is time
As a whitey, kinda pink man (who goes a lovely shade of chestnut in the summer
months) - you were wrong! But you get brownie points (no pun intended) for
seeing the error of your ways :) Mike.
- Original Message
From: cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Couldn`t you just get the kids to sew cushions for the local temple? That way
the practioners get a comfortable session, you get a pat on the head from your
roshi and the kids wipeout years of their negative karma.
- Original Message
From: Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I`m amazed you think anyone has the ability to see colour on this forum - I
just see black and white letters.
- Original Message
From: Jackson Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 February, 2008 4:43:48 AM
Subject: [Zen] Re: What It Is In 2008
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Sent: Thursday, 3 July, 2008 7:15:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Dear Bill
From: mike brown to give any phenonema a sense of purpose would require
giving that phenonema a sense of purpose right back to the Big Bang. So
there.
Which is exactly what a belief in God means. You are saying
Chuck,
True, but is the purpose of a chair inherent in object itself or is it given? A
chair to an Amazonian pygmy would have a different purpose than it would to you
or I. All objects/phenonema are empty of meaning. I think the `water pitcher`
koan demonstrates this well.
Mike.
Bill and Chuck,
Wash your bowls is as good as any non-logical statement, I guess. However,
`ordinary mind is the Way` seems to allow for logic to be used as a means to
showing the Truth. Furthermore, the gates to the Dharma are countless which
also seems to imply that nothing (including
Hi Folks,
I haven't posted here for awhile as Ive been busy moving house and changing
jobs yada yada.. However, during that time I managed to do a 10 day Vipassana
course. Wow! I would recommend everyone interested in meditation to try this
course if they can - the reward is well worth the 10
Hi Al,
I'm a Kyokushin karate practioner and have represented Australia (actually I'm
Welsh, but it's a long story..) at the international level. I have found Zen to
be indispensable when fighting in competitions. If you start worrying
negatively about the outcome of the fight, or regret not
that brilliantly in the finest martial artists such as the
aikido of Ueshiba Morihei, but it also works in every aspect of daily life if
we just empty ourselves and tune to
the chi of the moment, and let that originate our actions without hinderance.
Edgar
On Sep 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, mike brown
Hi Al,
I think the tricky thing about zen is that it often feels that 'getting it' is
always just around the corner or that if I just read the right
book/passage/haiku/manga comic etc it'll all become clear to me. Unfortunately,
this just takes us further than ever away from any kind of
are sitting in zazen or not. Just a
matter of experiencing it.
Edgar
On Sep 14, 2008, at 4:12 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
I agree with you in one sense - we're already 'there'. But sometimes you have
to go on a journey just to realise you never really had to go in the first
place. Same
On Sep 15, 2008, at 8:26 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
Again, in an ultimate sense I agree with you. Most satori experiences occur off
the mat (we cannot determine when they happen so they are a kind of 'Grace', if
you like), but for most people these experiences are usually preceded by many
personalities do you have? Will the true Mike please stand up and take
a bow
:-)
Edgar
On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:56 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
I don't belong to any particular sect but I do tend to sit in a soto Zen temple
here in Japan as often as I can. You have assumed from my comments
Hi Edgar,
How is this more evidence that sitting zazen in a monastry (or not) is a
waste of time? I would argue that if Margie had already been sitting when this
insight occured (or discovered a Zen centre soon afterwards) her experience
might have been far deeper. In fact, but for the
Hi Margie,
Welcome to the forum. My name is Mike and like you I had a spontaneous break
thru', but unlike you I was fortunate to pick up a book literally minutes after
my experience (a book on kundalini as it happens). Eventually I was led to Zen
and so able to put words (as such) to my
other techniques. I'm
not against it, I'm only against people thinking that's all it takes sort of
like 'Christians' that think going to church once in a while is all it take to
be a Christian.
Edgar
On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:30 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
How is this more evidence
where people do zazen. Anyway glad you agree with me.
Edgar
On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:35 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
Of course, I agree with you 100% that zen is not confined to sitting in zazen
and then something to be forgotten while we get on with life (kinda surprised
you would assume
Satori
mike brown You mentioned that someone you know sat in Japan for 3
years but became bitter because they didn't experience satori during
this time.
Weren't you in Japan for three years?
, desires, and aversions can't push me around.
I am very much enjoying our discussion.
Margie (roloro1557)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Margie,
Thanks for the reply. I think you write very clearly. I agree with
some of your comments, but not others
Al,
Hey! I said I was in it for the women - doesn't that qualify me to be a guru?
Perhaps I'm over-qualified (sniff). Baba Mike.
- Original Message
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October, 2008 20:36:42
Subject: [Zen] 2009 Best Way Pledge
discussion.
Margie (roloro1557)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Margie,
Thanks for the reply. I think you write very clearly. I agree with
some of your comments, but not others. For example, I agree that it is
possible to turn off the internal dialogue
there just to distract you
from the true path of enlightenment! :-)
Edgar
On Oct 1, 2008, at 6:47 AM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Al,
Still here (Japan) as a matter of fact. It'll be 4 years this month. I came
here for the zen, but will stay for the women. Mike.
- Original Message
From
: What's after Satori
Hi Mike, Aha, be ware of Asian woman. Did you notice the Japanese
woman raised their tone by one octave when they talk? :-)
mike brown wrote:
Hi Al,
Still here (Japan) as a matter of fact. It'll be 4 years this month. I
came here for the zen, but will stay
Thank you JM. Probably the wisest words I've read here in 5 years (apart from
my own, of course). Mike.
- Original Message
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October, 2008 23:47:13
Subject: Re: [Zen] 2009 Best Way Pledge
Hi Margie,
I love your poem! The objective nature of it makes it full of zen. I hope you
don't mind but I've taken the liberty of writing a commentary to each line just
for fun :) Mike.
reality comes in on little cat feet (and takes flight when big dog feet notice)
or bolts of lightning
the road that's moving,
it's the mind.
Edgar
On Oct 4, 2008, at 2:05 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Margie,
I love your poem! The objective nature of it makes it full of zen. I hope you
don't mind but I've taken the liberty of writing a commentary to each line just
for fun :) Mike.
reality comes
] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Margie,
I love your poem! The objective nature of it makes it full of zen. I
hope you don't mind but I've taken the liberty of writing a commentary
to each line just for fun :) Mike.
reality comes in on little cat feet (and takes flight when
To continue..
Charlie would leave the retards in the kitchen -with boiling water and
knives- to watch tv.
Jackson would punch-out anyone who dared ask a black man to work for him in the
kitchen.
Karin would take on the 'masculine' role and get her bitch to do them.
Mike.
- Original
. I peed my pants!
Chris
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
To continue..
Charlie would leave the retards in the kitchen -with boiling
water and knives- to watch tv.
Jackson would punch-out anyone who dared ask a black man to work
for him in the kitchen
Hi Mayaka,
If, as you say, all these people have moral values then why is there so much
suffering and strife in the world? I would say exactly because people have
moral values, or rather, opposing moral values. For example, on issues such as
abortion, drug use, age of consent, homosexuality
for psychological treatment, though it also has that effect.
Regards,
Anthony
--- On Wed, 8/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] In Heaven and on Earth
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 8:26 AM
is a double razor?.
In the mind clean and pure as an innocent childlike, moral values are
also clean. In a more poluted mind moral values are sick.
Mayka
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Mayaka,
If, as you say, all these people have moral values
Hi Edgar,
Does a cow have Buddha nature?
Mike.
- Original Message
From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 10 October, 2008 1:18:14
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and Zen
Morning Margie,
Well that answers the koan 'does a dog have Buddha
Hi Margie,
Hmm, I can appreciate the sentiment but I can't really agree that Animals are
eloquent zennists. We may often observe animals appearing to 'be in the
moment', but zen is also about how to live and die mindfully. For instance, we
can also observe animals cowering fearfully from
!
:-)
Edgar
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:21 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
Does a cow have Buddha nature?
Mike.
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From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Friday, 10 October, 2008 1:18:14
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and Zen
Morning Margie
.
But that's just the way I see it-
Margie (roloro1557)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Margie,
Hmm, I can appreciate the sentiment but I can't really agree that
Animals are eloquent zennists. We may often observe animals
appearing to 'be in the moment
Nice story! My ex-wife used to practice Zen occasionally so we both have our
own 'Zen cow' experiences. However, mine cost a lot more than $3.50 to put a
smile on my face...
Mike.
- Original Message
From: roloro1557 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 10
Hi Bill!,
Agreed. I think, therefore I am says nothing more than, I think, therefore
there are thoughts - and as we know we are more than the thoughts we think.
Mike.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 13 October,
Hi Anthony,
Many zen masters still remember the origin of zen, which is
mahayana Buddhism has a root vow of Bodhisatva to save all sentient
beings in the world. I have trouble seeing that reconciled with the non
duality.
I think you'll find that Edgar has already answered the question about
Hi Anthony,
You argue so strongly about morality, and the perceived lack of it in Zen,
so can you tell us - what exactly are you doing about the issues you mentioned
below?
Mike.
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From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15
Hi Mayka,
Could you give us a commentary on what those verses mean to you? Thanks.
Mike.
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From: Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 13:02:22
Subject: [Zen] TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part
Hi Edgar,
Simple question: if there are rules - how do we go beyond them?
Mike.
- Original Message
From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 8:03:44
Subject: Re: [Zen] Causality
Bill,
Maybe you say they are illusory, but you
.
Mayka
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Edgar,
Simple question: if there are rules - how do we go beyond them?
Mike.
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From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 October
?? :-)
I'm really looking forward to your reply.
Margie (roloro1557)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Well said. I really do enjoy reading the intellectual
and metaphysical postings here, but at the end of the
day, that is all they really are - headcandy
: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness.
Part 4, Sense Consciousness
Mike -
A toast to the things I cannot change!
On 10/15/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
Hi Mayka,
My knowledge and insight about
consciousness is rather limited. And therefore open
of Consciousness. Part
4, Sense Consciousness
Mike -
A toast to the things I cannot change!
On 10/15/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
Hi Mayka,
My knowledge and insight about
consciousness is rather limited. And therefore open to
intelectualization and what is the worst
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 18:55:10
Subject: Re: [Zen] Practical aspects of Causality
Hi Mike,
I am waiting to be convinced that without morality we can still live in peace.
Regards,
Anthony
--- On Wed, 15/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED
can do it myself. So I need help.
You cannot do everything on your own. Things second hand may be useful.
Regards,
Anthony
--- On Wed, 15/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Practical aspects of Causality
To: [EMAIL
] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness.
Part 4, Sense Consciousness
Mike -
A toast to the things I cannot change!
On 10/15/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
Hi Mayka,
My knowledge and insight about
consciousness is rather limited. And therefore open
, 2008, at 1:33 AM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Edgar,
Simple question: if there are rules - how do we go beyond them?
Mike.
- Original Message
From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 8:03:44
Subject: Re: [Zen] Causality
Bill
cannot change!
On 10/15/08, mike brown uerusuboyo@ ... wrote:
Hi Mayka,
My knowledge and insight about
consciousness is rather limited. And therefore open to
intelectualization and what is the worst speculation. Being aware
of
the harm that intelectualization and speculation can
revolution, there is turmoil. But after that, there will
be peace for a period of time. That is history. You cannot have peace from the
big bang to doomsday.
Regards,
Anthony
--- On Thu, 16/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re
Hi Edgar,
My comment is written below:
What nonsense! That experience suggests there is an
objective world (the eggplant) and that the cognitive representation of
that world is illusion. Only if the monk went back again later and it
wasn't an eggplant but a squashed frog and kept changing every
brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Practical aspects of Causality
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 7:27 AM
Hi Anthony,
Ok, I'm waiting. When are you going to put it in simple bloody English?
Mike
as do all beings, except apparently some of the humans on this group! :-)
Edgar
On Oct 15, 2008, at 7:24 PM, mike brown wrote:
Hi Chris,
Fish only have a 3 second memory so he probably wouldn't remember why he was
going to the market anyway. Most probably does his shopping via the internet
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