Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Vince
to something else entirely? From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:24:31 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? I wish you good luck. Anthony --- On Mon, 22/12/08, Vince everythingzen1971@ yahoo.com

Re: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Vince
Then fault my logic. From: Karin Machado tortiller...@yahoo.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:10:59 AM Subject: Re:Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? using extremes is one of the most basic of logical fallacies

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Anthony Wu
, Karin Machado tortiller...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Karin Machado tortiller...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:54 PM Are some animals created to be food and therefore have no Buddha Nature? Are plants

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Anthony Wu
everything that was given. It is fine if all stop killing, so we can all become vegetarians.   Anthony --- On Sun, 21/12/08, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: From: Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 21 December

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Vince
me playing devil's advocate. I have a freezer full of steak, chicken and fish.- V. From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:22:38 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? I believe 'Buddha

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Edgar Owen
. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? Anthony, This is a very perverted idea, that one can eat meat without karmic

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-20 Thread Anthony Wu
...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vince everythingzen1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 3:14 AM That is horrible, and I'm sorry you have to see that. I once saved a baby wood duck who had been left behind

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-20 Thread Edgar Owen
...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 3:14 AM That is horrible, and I'm sorry you have to see that. I once saved a baby wood duck who had been left behind by his mother. It was wonderful, the time I spent

Re:Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-20 Thread Karin Machado
Headlice are vermin. we are not stinking hindus! -- Sent from the Cingular network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Vince everythingzen1...@yahoo.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, Dec 20, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? I think

Re:Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-20 Thread Karin Machado
11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? In all things, the easiest way to find a flaw in an argument is to see it in it's extreme.. Men fall below crocodiles in terms of Predator/Prey relationship, so by this token, a crocodile has a Buddha nature where man does not? After all

[Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Karin
I work at a shopping mall and there is a canal nearby and there are lots of ducks in the area. I feed them out of the back of the store sometimes, and they run towards me and I talk to them. That is fun. However, many people dislike the ducks because they poop a lot, and I have seen some

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Edgar Owen
Karin, I'm with you. I have ducks nesting on my pond each spring. They of course have Buddha nature, feel pain and are sentient and have intelligence sufficient to deal with their environments. Edgar On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:55 AM, Karin wrote: I work at a shopping mall and there is a

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Anthony Wu
: From: Karin tortiller...@yahoo.com Subject: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 4:55 PM I work at a shopping mall and there is a canal nearby and there are lots of ducks in the area. I feed them out of the back of the store

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Edgar Owen
...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Karin tortiller...@yahoo.com Subject: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 4:55 PM I work at a shopping mall and there is a canal nearby and there are lots of ducks in the area. I feed them out of the back of the store

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Vince
a lame argument. So, I will continue on as I have, saving ducks and killing head lice when my child gets it. From: Karin tortiller...@yahoo.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:55:57 AM Subject: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? I

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Karin Machado
Vince I could make the argument that ducks are higher on the evolutionary ladder and therefore more deserving of consideration, I disagree. God put pests on earth too, and not so we could kiss up to them but just to see how many stupid people would claim that they had souls and not kill them.

Re:Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Karin Machado
You sound like a pest with a bad attitude! maybe God will thump you, bug-boy. -- Sent from the Cingular network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, Dec 19, 2008 09:36 PM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have