[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] Re: Essay: Without Infinite Regress

2008-12-02 Thread Edgar Owen
Mark, I presume by that you mean we can never directly perceive reality as it actually is. I agree with that. What we do directly perceive is our cognitive constructs of reality. That is our direct experience. That is what Zen means when it says 'seeing illusion as illusion is reality'.

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] Re: Essay: Without Infinite Regress

2008-12-02 Thread Edgar Owen
Robert, Well, I'm not sure what the point of your response below is but I'll attempt to reply. First consciousness, in the ordinary sense, does no processing of visual information or anything else. That is all done by pre- conscious mental mechanisms and only the end result is presented

[Zen] Re: [evol-psych] Re: Essay: Without Infinite Regress

2008-12-01 Thread Edgar Owen
Robert, Watching whatever the contents of consciousness happen to be at the moment is what is being watched. The basic problem with your entire analysis is that it describes a scientific, i.e. cognitive model, of the process by which experiences arise to consciousness. That is this whole