[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-28 Thread Mayka
Good morning Karen;

You seem to have a very strong aversion towards men.  Why is that?.  
What is it that happened to you to hate them so much?. And don't tell 
me that this is because you're a lesbian because that would be a 
rather pathetic excuse. 

There is a good caring side to you.  Like someone who is protective 
and with heart. Those are amongst the qualities of a Bodhisatva. 
Developing them in awarenes will make you wiser and stronger.  
However, Developing the qualities of a boddhisatva is not posible 
when ve have  our hearts are full of discrimination, aversion, 
hatred...Like a dusty untidy house we need to clean and put order in 
that house.  The house of the mind.  It is said that when the mind is 
free of dust it shines like a mirror all what is real in it.

Aversion, hatred, anger, discrimination...all those are causes of so 
much suffering in us human beings.  If we know that already, wouldn't 
be more clever to work towards the transformation of those negative 
emotions rather than let them to control our mind, actions and life?.

But, thank you anyway for your good intentions and care.
A white lotus flower to you
Mayka






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 Mayka  What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this 
 morning and couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in 
turmoil!
  
 
 That is because you are in love with a man. When he breaks your 
heart, 
 turn to another woman for comfort and your mind and heart will be 
 clear! 
 
 Karin






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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-27 Thread Karin
mike brown  Hai, mada Nara ni sunde iru. Yon nen kan desu. Demo 
Nihongo wa ichiban muzakashi kotoba ja nai. Welsh wa Nihongo yoori 
muzakashi da yo! 
 

Chupa mi boyo, besame el culo!




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-27 Thread Karin
Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
 

Budhha era HUEVONGO y CULONGO




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-27 Thread Karin
Edgar Owen  I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English 
on an English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he 
lived in India all his life.
 

He probably hated the Japaneses. Those Hindus are hard-core racists. 
Look at Mahatmo Ghandi. He was the best of India in 2500 years and by 
most accounts he was a dirty old man and he never washed either. The 
only good thing about India is the beautiful women with their musky 
warm areas and hairy legs. 




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-27 Thread Karin
Mayka  What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this 
morning and couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!
 

That is because you are in love with a man. When he breaks your heart, 
turn to another woman for comfort and your mind and heart will be 
clear! 

Karin




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-27 Thread mrwarrior2001
non-attachment to language. Isn't the nature of mind before the 
beginning of language?

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 That is why I said, instead of Japanese, we are better off learning 
Thai (which has a lot of imported Indian words) or Pali (I hope it 
contains not so much adulterations into the original Buddha language).
  
 Regards,
 Anthony
 
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 From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 8:06 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 
 I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an 
English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he lived 
in India all his life.
 :-)
 
 
 Edgar
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Edgar,
 
 
 Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language abilities 
and get back to Zen please?
 
 Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga suki 
desu!
 
 
 Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
 
 
 True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. Which 
language would you recommend?
 
 Mike.
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Edgar Owen

Hi Mike,

I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an  
English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he lived  
in India all his life.

:-)

Edgar



On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:



Hi Edgar,



Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language abilities  
and get back to Zen please?



Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga suki  
desu!



Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!

True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. Which  
language would you recommend?


Mike.







[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Mayka
Hi Edgar;

What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and 
couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!

Mayka


 --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an  
 English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he 
lived  
 in India all his life.
 :-)
 
 Edgar
 
 
 
 On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
 
 
  Hi Edgar,
 
 
 
  Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language 
abilities  
  and get back to Zen please?
 
 
  Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga 
suki  
  desu!
 
 
  Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
 
  True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. 
Which  
  language would you recommend?
 
  Mike.
 
 
 






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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Edgar Owen

Yea, he gets around doesn't he!


On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote:


Hi Edgar;

What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and
couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!

Mayka

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Mike,

 I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an
 English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he
lived
 in India all his life.
 :-)

 Edgar



 On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:

 
  Hi Edgar,
 
 
 
  Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language
abilities
  and get back to Zen please?
 
 
  Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga
suki
  desu!
 
 
  Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
 
  True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so.
Which
  language would you recommend?
 
  Mike.
 
 
 








Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Anthony Wu
That is why I said, instead of Japanese, we are better off learning Thai (which 
has a lot of imported Indian words) or Pali (I hope it contains not so much 
adulterations into the original Buddha language).
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Sun, 26/10/08, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 8:06 PM






Hi Mike,


I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an English group. 
He also said he never learned Japanese since he lived in India all his life.
:-)


Edgar







On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:









Hi Edgar,


Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language abilities and get 
back to Zen please?

Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga suki desu!


Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!


True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. Which language 
would you recommend?

Mike.




 














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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Anthony Wu
What passport does he hold?
 
BNO (British Nationality Overseas)?
 


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From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 10:39 PM






Yea, he gets around doesn't he!





On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote:





Hi Edgar;

What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and 
couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!

Mayka

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an 
 English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he 
lived 
 in India all his life.
 :-)
 
 Edgar
 
 
 
 On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
 
 
  Hi Edgar,
 
 
 
  Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language 
abilities 
  and get back to Zen please?
 
 
  Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga 
suki 
  desu!
 
 
  Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
 
  True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. 
Which 
  language would you recommend?
 
  Mike.
 
 
 



 














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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread mike brown
No, that's Mrs Thatcher and she,s not the Buddha - she's the Anti-Christ.

Mike





From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 27 October, 2008 9:23:15
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?


What passport does he hold?
 
BNO (British Nationality Overseas)?
 


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From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 10:39 PM


Yea, he gets around doesn't he! 



On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote:

Hi Edgar;

What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and 
couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!

Mayka

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an 
 English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he 
lived 
 in India all his life.
 :-)
 
 Edgar
 
 
 
 On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
 
 
  Hi Edgar,
 
 
 
  Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language 
abilities 
  and get back to Zen please?
 
 
  Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga 
suki 
  desu!
 
 
  Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
 
  True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. 
Which 
  language would you recommend?
 
  Mike.
 
 
 



 


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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Mayka
Edgar;

And who said the Buddha I spoke to was a man or a woman?. 

Mayka 


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yea, he gets around doesn't he!
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote:
 
  Hi Edgar;
 
  What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and
  couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!
 
  Mayka
 
  --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen edgarowen@ wrote:
  
   Hi Mike,
  
   I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an
   English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he
  lived
   in India all his life.
   :-)
  
   Edgar
  
  
  
   On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
  
   
Hi Edgar,
   
   
   
Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language
  abilities
and get back to Zen please?
   
   
Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga
  suki
desu!
   
   
Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
   
True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so.
  Which
language would you recommend?
   
Mike.
   
   
   
  
 
 
 






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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-26 Thread Mayka
Hehehe!!!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, that's Mrs Thatcher and she,s not the Buddha - she's the Anti-
Christ.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 October, 2008 9:23:15
 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
 
 
 What passport does he hold?
  
 BNO (British Nationality Overseas)?
  
 
 
 --- On Sun, 26/10/08, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote:
 
 From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
 Date: Sunday, 26 October, 2008, 10:39 PM
 
 
 Yea, he gets around doesn't he! 
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Mayka wrote:
 
 Hi Edgar;
 
 What a coincedence, I was also speaking to Buddha this morning and 
 couldn't figured out a word because mi mind was in turmoil!
 
 Mayka
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Edgar Owen edgarowen@ .. wrote:
 
  Hi Mike,
  
  I spoke to Buddha this morning and he recommends English on an 
  English group. He also said he never learned Japanese since he 
 lived 
  in India all his life.
  :-)
  
  Edgar
  
  
  
  On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:23 PM, mike brown wrote:
  
  
   Hi Edgar,
  
  
  
   Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language 
 abilities 
   and get back to Zen please?
  
  
   Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga 
 suki 
   desu!
  
  
   Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!
  
   True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. 
 Which 
   language would you recommend?
  
   Mike.
  
  
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-25 Thread mike brown
Hi Edgar,

Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language abilities and get 
back to Zen please?

Nan de? Watashi wa ooki ego o motte iru kara 'showing off' ga suki desu!


Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!


True, and Buddha himself was the devil for trying to do so. Which language 
would you recommend?

Mike.



  

Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-24 Thread Anthony Wu
Mai-ku-san konbanwa,
 
Ima nihongowa sudeni wasuremashita. sorewa ichiban muzukashii kotoba desu. 
Nihonjinmo soo iimasu.
 
Are you still living in Nara? You say sundeiru.
 
Regards,
Anthony

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From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 1:49 AM








Konban wa Anthony san, 

Ah, sou desu ka. Dono ken Tanjikan desu ka? Watashi wa Nara ni sunde iru. Shite 
iru? Dono gurai Tanjikan ni sunde imashita ka? Ima mada Nihongo o benkyo shite 
iru? Muzakashi sugi ne!

Mike (that had nothing to do with zen whatsoever, but I thought I'd just air my 
ego for a spell).



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Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?








Hi Mike,
 
Watashiwa Hong Kong de Nihongoo benkyoshimashita. Shikashi totemo hetadesu. 
Nihonni itta koto wa arimashita. Tanjikan desu. 
 
Wakaranai is in answer to your question: 'what is a zen way?' Zen way is 'don't 
know'.
 
Regards,
Anthony

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From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:27 PM






Hi Anthony,

Wakaranai. .. Anata no Nihongo jouzu desu ne. Doko de Nihongo o benkyo 
shimashita ka. Nihon ni itta koto ga arimashita ka?

Mike



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Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:24:12
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?








Wakaranai -- I don't know. I like humor.
 
Regards,
Anthony

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From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:20 PM






Hi Anthony,

What is a zen way? I think humour is a great teaching tool and IMHO Zen 
stands out from all other religions regarding the use of humour. Besides, does 
anyone here seriously still believe 'Jackson Masters' is a black man??

Mike.



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Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?








I agree. We should stop that senseless conversation. Oppression and color are 
different things, though unfortunately they sometimes are linked to each other. 
We should try to solve it in a zen way.
 
Regards,
Anthony

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Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 7:00 AM





A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did not post 
messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity that clearly 
is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the abyss. 
Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would respond to this 
obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon us, even me I suppose. 
Additionally, it is obvious that the poster is posing in every way imaginable., 
Race, Zen, Human, whatever is missing is clear with an open mind. 
I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure that I did 
not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One prospers in his delusion.
Blue.



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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-24 Thread Edgar Owen
Would all you baka gaijin stop showing off your language abilities  
and get back to Zen please?


Remember true Zen cannot be expressed in nihongo!

:-)
Edgar



On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:



Mai-ku-san konbanwa,

Ima nihongowa sudeni wasuremashita. sorewa ichiban muzukashii  
kotoba desu. Nihonjinmo soo iimasu.


Are you still living in Nara? You say sundeiru.

Regards,
Anthony

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From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 1:49 AM

Konban wa Anthony san,

Ah, sou desu ka. Dono ken Tanjikan desu ka? Watashi wa Nara ni  
sunde iru. Shite iru? Dono gurai Tanjikan ni sunde imashita ka? Ima  
mada Nihongo o benkyo shite iru? Muzakashi sugi ne!


Mike (that had nothing to do with zen whatsoever, but I thought I'd  
just air my ego for a spell).


- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 22:22:28
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

Hi Mike,

Watashiwa Hong Kong de Nihongoo benkyoshimashita. Shikashi totemo  
hetadesu. Nihonni itta koto wa arimashita. Tanjikan desu.


Wakaranai is in answer to your question: 'what is a zen way?' Zen  
way is 'don't know'.


Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:27 PM

Hi Anthony,

Wakaranai. .. Anata no Nihongo jouzu desu ne. Doko de Nihongo o  
benkyo shimashita ka. Nihon ni itta koto ga arimashita ka?


Mike

- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:24:12
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

Wakaranai -- I don't know. I like humor.

Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mike brown[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:
From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:20 PM

Hi Anthony,

What is a zen way? I think humour is a great teaching tool and  
IMHO Zen stands out from all other religions regarding the use of  
humour. Besides, does anyone here seriously still believe 'Jackson  
Masters' is a black man??


Mike.

- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:05:13
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

I agree. We should stop that senseless conversation. Oppression and  
color are different things, though unfortunately they sometimes are  
linked to each other. We should try to solve it in a zen way.


Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Daryl E Curry[EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote:
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Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 7:00 AM

A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did  
not post messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this  
entity that clearly is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the  
dialog into the abyss.
Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would  
respond to this obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon  
us, even me I suppose. Additionally, it is obvious that the poster  
is posing in every way imaginable., Race, Zen, Human, whatever is  
missing is clear with an open mind.
I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure  
that I did not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One  
prospers in his delusion.

Blue.




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-24 Thread Karin
mike brown  Muzakashi sugi ne!
 

Sounds like Sonny Chiba!




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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-24 Thread Endymion
Why not? I still plan on winking at the bearded, hairy men I meet. I'd love to 
be Jeff Hopkins' boy toy-well he IS 13 years older than I am. (ever see his 
picture on the back of The Tantric Distinction? I'd give anything to finish 
unbuttoning his shirt.) 
In Googling Zen Buddhism, I saw plenty of Spanish language sites. There must be 
a few out there running meditation centers. That's why I snarkily reminded 
people to be sure not just to check out the USA-you know those others countries 
where just about everyone speaks Spanish?


 




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Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 8:23 AM






Endymion So you mean to say there's documented evidence of Zen 
masters REFUSING to allow blacks and hispanics to sit zazen and they 
also refuse them entrance to the dokusan rooms to ask questions?
 

No, it is just a coincidence that blacks and Hispanics are not Zen 
Masters. I would think there must be one somewhere. I know that there 
are a few dykes who are Zen Masters. I wonder if they still use their 
dildoes after enlightenment?

 














  

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-24 Thread Charlie
Endymion I saw plenty of Spanish language sites. There must be a few 
out there running meditation centers. That's why I snarkily reminded 
people to be sure not just to check out the USA-you know those others 
countries where just about everyone speaks Spanish?
 

Those are bootleg Zen centers run by dirty Puerto Ricans masquerading 
as Spaniards. 




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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread mike brown
Hi Anthony,

What is a zen way? I think humour is a great teaching tool and IMHO Zen 
stands out from all other religions regarding the use of humour. Besides, does 
anyone here seriously still believe 'Jackson Masters' is a black man??

Mike.



- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:05:13
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?


I agree. We should stop that senseless conversation. Oppression and color are 
different things, though unfortunately they sometimes are linked to each other. 
We should try to solve it in a zen way.
 
Regards,
Anthony

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From: Daryl E Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 7:00 AM


A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did not post 
messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity that clearly 
is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the abyss. 
Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would respond to this 
obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon us, even me I suppose. 
Additionally, it is obvious that the poster is posing in every way imaginable., 
Race, Zen, Human, whatever is missing is clear with an open mind. 
I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure that I did 
not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One prospers in his delusion.
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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Wakaranai -- I don't know. I like humor.
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:20 PM








Hi Anthony,

What is a zen way? I think humour is a great teaching tool and IMHO Zen 
stands out from all other religions regarding the use of humour. Besides, does 
anyone here seriously still believe 'Jackson Masters' is a black man??

Mike.



- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:05:13
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?








I agree. We should stop that senseless conversation. Oppression and color are 
different things, though unfortunately they sometimes are linked to each other. 
We should try to solve it in a zen way.
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Daryl E Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote:

From: Daryl E Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 7:00 AM





A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did not post 
messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity that clearly 
is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the abyss. 
Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would respond to this 
obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon us, even me I suppose. 
Additionally, it is obvious that the poster is posing in every way imaginable., 
Race, Zen, Human, whatever is missing is clear with an open mind. 
I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure that I did 
not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One prospers in his delusion.
Blue.



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RE: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread BillSmart
Just for clarification...

I did say 'There are no Black zen masters'; but what I didn't say was that
there are no White, Latino, Arab, Asia, male/female, left/right-handed,
democrat/republican, etc., zen masters.  If you believe that there are
adepts that could/should be called zen masters, then they would be well
beyond such vulgar qualifiers; and if you're focusing on the qualifier
you're missing the whole point.

Mac. A. Roni: Show us your noodle before you the water was brought to a
boil!

...Bill!

From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of cid830
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:47 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

Mac,

Bill pretty confidently replied that there were no black masters. No 
one has mentioned latinos until now. You haven't missed much, just some 
silliness. 

Chris





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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Mayka
Bill;

I've just send you the email and see what you mean!.  You mean that 
one has to show the noodle before the water boils.  This is because 
when the water boils one can't see the noodle, isn't it?

You and your thoughtful questions...

Enjoy!!
Mayka

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, BillSmart@ wrote:
  
  Mac. A. Roni: Show us your noodle before you the water was 
brought 
 to a
  boil!
  
 
 
 Hi Bill;
 
 This say sounds a contradition.  How can one show oneself noodle 
 before the water was brought to the boil?. I'm comparing the noodle 
 with the internal knots and the boiling water as a non tranquil 
mind. 
 When the water is brought to the boil, the noodle shakes and can't 
 coordinate with reason. Imposible to see and therefore show the 
 noodle!!!.  The noodle will need to be taken away from the boiling 
 water, won't it?
 
 As soon as I see your post I open it with curiosity.  It's really 
 great having someone like you in this group.
 
 Hope you can receive all emails now.  Hope the problem of the post 
 has been sort it out. I haven't had any problems with this website 
 yet.  I did in the past experiencing alike problems as yourself.  
But 
 now post goes into the group in seconds. 
 
  Have you checked the spam and trash post?.  Check also the 
antivirus 
 and Firewall, antispy...
 
  May I call the attention of the Administrator of this website and 
 check what is going wrong with the post to some members?
 
 A Scottish automn leaf to you
 Mayka






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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Bill Smart
Lotus Flower,

You wrote:

I was actually just making a little joke by adpating a well known 
koan to specifically address Mac A. Roni.  The original koan 
is: 'What your original face before your mother was born?' or 'Show 
me your face before your mother was born.'  Since Mac A. Roni 
(macaroni) is just a fake name from own of our usual contributors, I 
chose to adapt it to a noodle theme.

Lo siento, yo no puedo reciber su 'postings' en mi email.  Porque?  
Yo no se.

I also am not getting posts from Mike Brown.  Several months ago I 
used to get them from both of you.

I have checked all the SPAM and other filters I have.  Everyone 
else's postings come through okay.

By the way, do you post your postings via email or via the website?

Mike Brown, do you post your postings via email or via the website?

Hasta luego...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, BillSmart@ wrote:
  
  Mac. A. Roni: Show us your noodle before you the water was 
brought 
 to a
  boil!
  
 
 
 Hi Bill;
 
 This say sounds a contradition.  How can one show oneself noodle 
 before the water was brought to the boil?. I'm comparing the noodle 
 with the internal knots and the boiling water as a non tranquil 
mind. 
 When the water is brought to the boil, the noodle shakes and can't 
 coordinate with reason. Imposible to see and therefore show the 
 noodle!!!.  The noodle will need to be taken away from the boiling 
 water, won't it?
 
 As soon as I see your post I open it with curiosity.  It's really 
 great having someone like you in this group.
 
 Hope you can receive all emails now.  Hope the problem of the post 
 has been sort it out. I haven't had any problems with this website 
 yet.  I did in the past experiencing alike problems as yourself.  
But 
 now post goes into the group in seconds. 
 
  Have you checked the spam and trash post?.  Check also the 
antivirus 
 and Firewall, antispy...
 
  May I call the attention of the Administrator of this website and 
 check what is going wrong with the post to some members?
 
 A Scottish automn leaf to you
 Mayka






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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Mayka,
 
Before I see Bill's reply, I would say, 'zen - like magic, difies logics'.
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Mayka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 5:45 PM






Bill;

I've just send you the email and see what you mean!. You mean that 
one has to show the noodle before the water boils. This is because 
when the water boils one can't see the noodle, isn't it?

You and your thoughtful questions...

Enjoy!!
Mayka

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Mayka flordeloto@ ... wrote:

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, BillSmart@ wrote:
  
  Mac. A. Roni: Show us your noodle before you the water was 
brought 
 to a
  boil!
  
 
 
 Hi Bill;
 
 This say sounds a contradition. How can one show oneself noodle 
 before the water was brought to the boil?. I'm comparing the noodle 
 with the internal knots and the boiling water as a non tranquil 
mind. 
 When the water is brought to the boil, the noodle shakes and can't 
 coordinate with reason. Imposible to see and therefore show the 
 noodle!!!. The noodle will need to be taken away from the boiling 
 water, won't it?
 
 As soon as I see your post I open it with curiosity. It's really 
 great having someone like you in this group.
 
 Hope you can receive all emails now. Hope the problem of the post 
 has been sort it out. I haven't had any problems with this website 
 yet. I did in the past experiencing alike problems as yourself. 
But 
 now post goes into the group in seconds. 
 
 Have you checked the spam and trash post?. Check also the 
antivirus 
 and Firewall, antispy...
 
 May I call the attention of the Administrator of this website and 
 check what is going wrong with the post to some members?
 
 A Scottish automn leaf to you
 Mayka


 














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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread cid830
Mike,

I do. I tend to take people at their word. No matter how outrageous. 
Even if he is not, have no doubt that he is echoing the beliefs of 
many.  

I do believe that you have a valid point in a prior post that he, as 
well as some others, may be one person trying to stir things up a 
bit. Could it be Al A Roni? Who knows.

Take it Easy!

Chris

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 Hi Anthony,
 
...Besides, does anyone here seriously still believe 'Jackson 
Masters' is a black man??
 
 Mike.





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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread mike brown
?? Let me just take this to the Bat computers in the Bat Cave to 
make sense of.

Mike



- Original Message 
From: Mac A. Roni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 0:56:36
Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?


Bill Smart  I also am not getting posts from Mike Brown.

Mike Brown is discriminating against you in much the same way that the 
Asian community discriminates against Blacks and Hispanics by not 
promoting them to the levels of Zen Masters. 

This Man-Against- Man hate is what drives most successful drama in the 
cinema, however it can be disturbing to the victims of the 
discrimination. 

Thus, Dol-E-Mite and black exploitation film genre was born. Perhaps 
what we need is a minority oriented Zen lineage. 

Frijoles Zen




  

Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread mike brown
Konban wa Anthony san, 

Ah, sou desu ka. Dono ken Tanjikan desu ka? Watashi wa Nara ni sunde iru. Shite 
iru? Dono gurai Tanjikan ni sunde imashita ka? Ima mada Nihongo o benkyo shite 
iru? Muzakashi sugi ne!

Mike (that had nothing to do with zen whatsoever, but I thought I'd just air my 
ego for a spell).



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From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 22:22:28
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?


Hi Mike,
 
Watashiwa Hong Kong de Nihongoo benkyoshimashita. Shikashi totemo hetadesu. 
Nihonni itta koto wa arimashita. Tanjikan desu. 
 
Wakaranai is in answer to your question: 'what is a zen way?' Zen way is 'don't 
know'.
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:

From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:27 PM


Hi Anthony,

Wakaranai. .. Anata no Nihongo jouzu desu ne. Doko de Nihongo o benkyo 
shimashita ka. Nihon ni itta koto ga arimashita ka?

Mike



- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:24:12
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?


Wakaranai -- I don't know. I like humor.
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:

From: mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:20 PM


Hi Anthony,

What is a zen way? I think humour is a great teaching tool and IMHO Zen 
stands out from all other religions regarding the use of humour. Besides, does 
anyone here seriously still believe 'Jackson Masters' is a black man??

Mike.



- Original Message 
From: Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 16:05:13
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?


I agree. We should stop that senseless conversation. Oppression and color are 
different things, though unfortunately they sometimes are linked to each other. 
We should try to solve it in a zen way.
 
Regards,
Anthony

--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Daryl E Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote:

From: Daryl E Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] net
Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 7:00 AM


A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did not post 
messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity that clearly 
is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the abyss. 
Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would respond to this 
obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon us, even me I suppose. 
Additionally, it is obvious that the poster is posing in every way imaginable., 
Race, Zen, Human, whatever is missing is clear with an open mind. 
I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure that I did 
not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One prospers in his delusion.
Blue.



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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-23 Thread Mayka
Hi Bill;

I have come to realice that I don't receive posting from two new 
members: Jason and Bob.

Mike and myself are in the UK.  I wonder if there are more people on 
this group posting from the UK.  I post throgh the web and receive 
email in my personal email.

How funny this koan of yours.  I laugh a lot while reading your 
explanations.  You have to admit that you've just created a very good 
koan with the noodles as internal knots and boiled water as the mind 
in turmoil!!.  Our Mr. Macarroni must be pretty confuse by 
now...Hehehe!!!

Enjoy!
Mayka

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lotus Flower,
 
 You wrote:
 
 I was actually just making a little joke by adpating a well known 
 koan to specifically address Mac A. Roni.  The original koan 
 is: 'What your original face before your mother was born?' or 'Show 
 me your face before your mother was born.'  Since Mac A. Roni 
 (macaroni) is just a fake name from own of our usual contributors, 
I 
 chose to adapt it to a noodle theme.
 
 Lo siento, yo no puedo reciber su 'postings' en mi email.  Porque?  
 Yo no se.
 
 I also am not getting posts from Mike Brown.  Several months ago I 
 used to get them from both of you.
 
 I have checked all the SPAM and other filters I have.  Everyone 
 else's postings come through okay.
 
 By the way, do you post your postings via email or via the website?
 
 Mike Brown, do you post your postings via email or via the website?
 
 Hasta luego...Bill!
 
 --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mayka flordeloto@ wrote:
 
  --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, BillSmart@ wrote:
   
   Mac. A. Roni: Show us your noodle before you the water was 
 brought 
  to a
   boil!
   
  
  
  Hi Bill;
  
  This say sounds a contradition.  How can one show oneself noodle 
  before the water was brought to the boil?. I'm comparing the 
noodle 
  with the internal knots and the boiling water as a non tranquil 
 mind. 
  When the water is brought to the boil, the noodle shakes and 
can't 
  coordinate with reason. Imposible to see and therefore show the 
  noodle!!!.  The noodle will need to be taken away from the 
boiling 
  water, won't it?
  
  As soon as I see your post I open it with curiosity.  It's really 
  great having someone like you in this group.
  
  Hope you can receive all emails now.  Hope the problem of the 
post 
  has been sort it out. I haven't had any problems with this 
website 
  yet.  I did in the past experiencing alike problems as yourself.  
 But 
  now post goes into the group in seconds. 
  
   Have you checked the spam and trash post?.  Check also the 
 antivirus 
  and Firewall, antispy...
  
   May I call the attention of the Administrator of this website 
and 
  check what is going wrong with the post to some members?
  
  A Scottish automn leaf to you
  Mayka
 






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Re: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread mike brown
Personally, I'd like to have seen Mr T become President instead of just being 
George Bush's poliical advisor and speech writer.

Mike.



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cid830  Are you talking about his mother? 
 

Laugh now whitey, once Obama is elected President, the Black Man in 
America will walk and talk with authority, and the whitey will bend 
and kneel to the black man. 

We are the power now, man. We are the Black Power! Whitey will be 
second class this November!




  

[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
I PITY THE FOOL!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally, I'd like to have seen Mr T become President instead of 
just being George Bush's poliical advisor and speech writer.
 
 Mike.
 





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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread Daryl E Curry
A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did not post
messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity that
clearly is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the abyss. 
Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would respond to
this obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon us, even me I
suppose. Additionally, it is obvious that the poster is posing in every way
imaginable., Race, Zen, Human, whatever is missing is clear with an open
mind. 
I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure that I
did not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One prospers in his
delusion.
Blue.




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread cid830
Blue,

Thank you for posting. Your words reflect clearly the state of your 
being. You are obviously a serious practitioner. Not all of us here 
are, that is not a requirement. I agree, I am too-often prone to 
reply to idiocy, reflecting my own while doing so. But I sometimes 
just can't help myself, I (probably mistakenly) believe that 
somewhere in my retort, the offending idiot will see his or her own 
ignorance. I do think that your post below will work much better 
though. 

As much as I like rolling around in the mud, spouting my own 
stupidity. I do find the substantive postings much more enjoying.

Thank You,

Chris

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Daryl E Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 A short time ago, the forum considered dropping members that did 
not post
 messages, thankfully that moment passed. Now, we have this entity 
that
 clearly is delusional and IT is allowed to drag the dialog into the 
abyss. 
 Firstly, as a Black Buddhist, the idea that anyone of us would 
respond to
 this obviously ill person is a terrible reflection upon us, even me 
I
 suppose. Additionally, it is obvious that the poster is posing in 
every way
 imaginable., Race, Zen, Human, whatever is missing is clear with an 
open
 mind. 
 I apologize for contributing to this dialog, but I wanted to insure 
that I
 did not get deleted from the Group, while this Dark One prospers in 
his
 delusion.
 Blue.
 
 
 
 
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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread Mac A. Roni
I have not been following this thread very closely. Did anyone post 
the list of black Zen Masters? Are there any Hispanic Zen Masters??




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RE: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-22 Thread BillSmart
Mac. A. Roni,

If you wouldn't spend so much time being a side dish you'd know that no one
has offered any lists of zen Masters of any kind.  I certainly hope no one
does.

Try to keep up!

...Bill!

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Subject: [Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

I have not been following this thread very closely. Did anyone post 
the list of black Zen Masters? Are there any Hispanic Zen Masters??




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-21 Thread cid830
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  Is Zen the last bastion of racism? 



No, Jackson, I'm sure you'll be able to find it elsewhere. 


Whitey




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-21 Thread cid830
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... Show us your face before your mother was born.

Bill,

Are you talking about his mother? 


Chris





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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-21 Thread Jackson Masters
cid830  Are you talking about his mother? 
 

Laugh now whitey, once Obama is elected President, the Black Man in 
America will walk and talk with authority, and the whitey will bend 
and kneel to the black man. 

We are the power now, man. We are the Black Power! Whitey will be 
second class this November!




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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-21 Thread Bill Smart
Chris,  No, I'm talking about buddha nature...Bill!

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 --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
 
 ... Show us your face before your mother was born.
 
 Bill,
 
 Are you talking about his mother? 
 
 
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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-21 Thread cid830
Jackson,

Obama is half white and half black, so he can't be ALL bad. I guess 
he'll do fine as President of the United States. Just as long as he 
doesn't try to become a Zen Master, those damn roshis. I mean Indian, 
Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, just to name a few, and they won't let 
one brother in?  Those nationalities know nothing of discrimination and 
oppression.  

Your Ignorance is my Bliss!

Chris

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 cid830  Are you talking about his mother? 
  
 
 Laugh now whitey, once Obama is elected President, the Black Man in 
 America will walk and talk with authority, and the whitey will bend 
 and kneel to the black man. 
 
 We are the power now, man. We are the Black Power! Whitey will be 
 second class this November!






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[Zen] Re: Black Zen Masters?

2008-10-21 Thread cid830
Bill, 

Oh, that. Well if only we all could strip these veils of illusion and 
alienating prejudices. If only there were some method of experiencing 
the here and the now, without societal influences. If only we didn't 
worry about what color someone is or hate a person's gender or 
ethnicity, maybe we could realize our buddha nature. No matter who we 
are, or where we come from. 

Peace be with You!

Chris

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