Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Vince
to something else entirely? From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:24:31 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? I wish you good luck. Anthony --- On Mon, 22/12/08, Vince everythingzen1971@ yahoo.com

Re: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Vince
. if that is how you make decisions. you are lost! -- Sent from the Cingular network using Mobile Email --Original Message- - From: Vince everythingzen1971@ yahoo.com To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Sat, Dec 20, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? In all things

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Anthony Wu
, Karin Machado tortiller...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Karin Machado tortiller...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:54 PM Are some animals created to be food and therefore have no Buddha Nature? Are plants

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Anthony Wu
everything that was given. It is fine if all stop killing, so we can all become vegetarians.   Anthony --- On Sun, 21/12/08, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: From: Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 21 December

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Vince
me playing devil's advocate. I have a freezer full of steak, chicken and fish.- V. From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:22:38 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? I believe 'Buddha

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-21 Thread Edgar Owen
. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? Anthony, This is a very perverted idea, that one can eat meat without karmic

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-20 Thread Anthony Wu
...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vince everythingzen1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 3:14 AM That is horrible, and I'm sorry you have to see that. I once saved a baby wood duck who had been left behind

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-20 Thread Edgar Owen
...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 3:14 AM That is horrible, and I'm sorry you have to see that. I once saved a baby wood duck who had been left behind by his mother. It was wonderful, the time I spent

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Edgar Owen
Karin, I'm with you. I have ducks nesting on my pond each spring. They of course have Buddha nature, feel pain and are sentient and have intelligence sufficient to deal with their environments. Edgar On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:55 AM, Karin wrote: I work at a shopping mall and there is a

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Anthony Wu
Karin,   Ducks have Buddha nature when we have sympathy with them. When you think about them in general terms, they should have no Buddha nature. Otherwise, you would attach to them. That is a teaching from Zhaozhou zen master.   Anthony --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Karin tortiller...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Edgar Owen
Anthony, It is nonsense to think that humans could convey Buddha nature on to anything at all by thinking about them. Buddha nature is innate in all things. Your ignorant Zhaozhou master needs a duck to teach him about Buddha nature! Edgar On Dec 19, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Anthony Wu

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Vince
That is horrible, and I'm sorry you have to see that. I once saved a baby wood duck who had been left behind by his mother. It was wonderful, the time I spent with him. I named him Quackers. However, I think about this and I am something of a hypocrite. I love ducks but despise roaches and head

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-19 Thread Karin Machado
Vince I could make the argument that ducks are higher on the evolutionary ladder and therefore more deserving of consideration, I disagree. God put pests on earth too, and not so we could kiss up to them but just to see how many stupid people would claim that they had souls and not kill them.