RE: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen

2010-08-25 Thread BillSmart
: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:11 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen I managed to do 20 minutes on my mat and cushion today, although I was having a little bit of OCD finickiness about sitting on the floor. Are koans useful on your own

Re: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen

2010-08-24 Thread DP
I have been doing basically as you describe. It was fine with 10 minutes, but making the move from 10 to 20 or 30 was very hard. I had stopped doing the counting, should I maybe get back to it? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Dave, I don't know if the feeling

Re: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen

2010-08-24 Thread ED
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RE: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen

2010-08-24 Thread BillSmart
, the circle disappears altogether. That's what shikan taza is like. .Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DP Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:20 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen

RE: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen

2010-08-24 Thread BillSmart
[mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of billsm...@hhs1963.org Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:40 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Having trouble getting back into zazen DP, I've been doing zazen for over 40 years and I ALWAYS start just as I described below