Re: [Zen] Practice begins

2008-02-19 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
And more clearly, until we are ready to place our heart at the Bodhisatva position, our practice does not begin. Yet, when we do place our heart as a Bodhisatva, everything just happens - teaching would make more sense, life will be more liberating, less pain while sitting, etc. etc. JM Jue

Re: [Zen] Practice begins

2008-02-19 Thread Al
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - We face ourselves honestly. We love others with compassion. We do the best we can without expectation. I am going to focus on just that. I remember Krishnamurti seemed to have a harder edge in terms of his philosophy, which was something of buddhism and also what he

RE: [Zen] Practice begins

2008-02-19 Thread BillSmart
clarity. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:23 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Practice begins From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - We face ourselves honestly. We love others with compassion. We do

RE: [Zen] Practice begins

2008-02-19 Thread BillSmart
AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Practice begins From: BillSmartI like zazen because it's not a blur, it's clarity. I don't see it the same way. Most zen seems like a lot of bullshit and smoke and mirrors. I thought Krishnamurti had more concrete remarks even though he