Merle,
Speak for yourself. If that were true no one would be enlightened...
Edgar
On May 23, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
edgar..we are all emotionally needing..you included..merle
Mike,
That was right speech.
A little lesson in Buddhism for you.
Right speech (and thought) have to do with telling the truth, not coddling
the emotionally needy...
Edgar
On May 22, 2013, at 11:28 PM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Edgar,
You can't preach Right Thoughts and then completely stomp over 'Right
Speech'...
Mike
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From: Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net;
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com;
Subject: Re: [Zen] The False I and the Real I - Eckhart Tolle
Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 11:29:34 AM
Bill,
Mr. Rogers was one of the most smarmy, saccharine, moronic, comic book
Christian likely pedophiles to ever defile US TV screens...
Edgar
On May 22, 2013, at 4:47 AM, Bill! wrote:
Merle,
Mister Roger's Neighborhood was a children's program that was very popular
in the USA for a long, long time. He is very kind and gentle teaching kids
about all kinds of things. Here's an episode where he talks about friends.
It's about 30-minutes long but you only have to watch about the first 3 or
4 minutes to get the idea of what he was like.
Mister Rogers
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote:
 an all round american let me do it right for you!... merle
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Merle,
Fred Rogers
www.imdb.com
Fred McFeely Rogers was an American educator, Presbyterian minister,
songwriter, author, and television host. Rogers was most famous for
creating and hosting Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, which featured his
gentle, soft-spoken personality and directness to his audiences.
en.wikipedia.org
Lived:Â Mar 20, 1928 - Feb 27, 2003 (age 74)
Height:Â 6' (1.83 m)
Spouse: Sara Byrd (1952 - 2003)
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote:
 bill..i do not know who mr. rogers is...enlighten me ,,merle
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Merle,
Did Eckhart Tolle's demeanor remind you of Mr. Rogers as it did me?
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@ wrote:
 thank you bill a good start for the day... i watched the
video and found it very beneficial... merle
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Below is a link to a 15-minute video by Eckhart Tolle entitled The
False I and the Real I.  I've read a few things from Tolle
but have never seen a video by him before.  I would describe
him as the the Mr. Rogers of New-Age Spiritualism. ÂÂÂ
If I remember correctly Bonnie, one of our new member, speaks highly
of Tolle.
It was interesting to me because he stated the ego is only the ego if
you're unaware of it, and as soon as you become aware of it it's not
the ego anymore. That corresponds somewhat to zen in that the self is
only problematic when you think it's real and are not aware that it
is an illusion. He also goes on to say that just recognizing the ego
doesn't solve all your problems. He says that there is a kind of
momentum built up that you just can't stop immediately.  I
think what he calls 'momentum' could be the same as what Buddhism and
zen (as I understand it) calls 'attachment'.
Anyway all this is similar to the experiencing Buddha Nature and
realizing the self is an illusion. That experience doesn't mean you
do not have any more work left to do to continue to weaken and
finally dissolve the attachment you have to this illusory self - even
after you recognize that it is illusory.
Also, you might also see how the same or very similar teachings of
zen are presented in a more modern dialog.
If you'd like to see this video, and I recommend it, you can find it
on YouTube at: The False I and the Real I .
Enjoy!  ...Bill!
