Re: [zeromq-dev] Google Groups

[Robert Johnston]

Yes, buy then kill is common, even for Google.  Try for a year, then kill is 
common, even for Google.  But Google Groups has been around 15 years (since 
2001) with a HUGE user base.  I’ll bet it will be here tomorrow.

 

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[mailto:zeromq-dev-boun...@lists.zeromq.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Price
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I agree it can do the job. There is no guarantee it will be there tomorrow. If 
this list is moved, please keep an active Plan B. If you don’t think Google is 
willing to make very disruptive service termination choices, please read this: 
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/4/11362928/google-nest-revolv-shutdown-smart-home-products

 

-chuck

On Apr 15, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Johnston mailto:rob...@layer2.com> > wrote:

 

Google Groups: it will do the job, it will be there tomorror.

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Re: [zeromq-dev] Google Groups

[Pieter Hintjens]

Then again it puts Picasa in the same place, and that was replaced by Photos.

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Pieter Hintjens  wrote:
> Here's an interesting article I just found on the subject:
> https://www.gwern.net/Google%20shutdowns
>
> It puts the risk of Google shutting down Groups very low indeed.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Chuck Price  wrote:
>> I agree it can do the job. There is no guarantee it will be there tomorrow.
>> If this list is moved, please keep an active Plan B. If you don’t think
>> Google is willing to make very disruptive service termination choices,
>> please read this:
>> http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/4/11362928/google-nest-revolv-shutdown-smart-home-products
>>
>> -chuck
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Johnston  wrote:
>>
>> Google Groups: it will do the job, it will be there tomorror.
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Re: [zeromq-dev] Google Groups

[Pieter Hintjens]

Here's an interesting article I just found on the subject:
https://www.gwern.net/Google%20shutdowns

It puts the risk of Google shutting down Groups very low indeed.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Chuck Price  wrote:
> I agree it can do the job. There is no guarantee it will be there tomorrow.
> If this list is moved, please keep an active Plan B. If you don’t think
> Google is willing to make very disruptive service termination choices,
> please read this:
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/4/11362928/google-nest-revolv-shutdown-smart-home-products
>
> -chuck
>
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Johnston  wrote:
>
> Google Groups: it will do the job, it will be there tomorror.
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Re: [zeromq-dev] Google Groups

[Chuck Price]

I agree it can do the job. There is no guarantee it will be there tomorrow. If 
this list is moved, please keep an active Plan B. If you don’t think Google is 
willing to make very disruptive service termination choices, please read this: 
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/4/11362928/google-nest-revolv-shutdown-smart-home-products

-chuck

> On Apr 15, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Johnston  wrote:
> 
> Google Groups: it will do the job, it will be there tomorror.
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Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

[Mario Steinhoff]

I'm ok with Google Groups as long I'll still receive all posts as mail
(which should be possible as others have noted).

Archive migration is a must have, seems also be possible.

What would be Plan B if in the future if Google decides to shutdown Google
Groups? This has happened in the past, even to popular services like Google
Reader.

Will the archive on gmane still be affected by the migration? When googling
for ZMQ, its always in the first hits. Things will get annoying if the
content would also be removed there.

Mario
On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 at 23:06, Luca Boccassi  wrote:

> On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 14:53 +0800, Jim Idle wrote:
> > > On 14.04.2016 09:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> > > >> So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our
> > > archives.
> > > >>
> > > >> Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable.
> > > >>
> > > >> Conventional email interface is a plus.
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/groups-migration/v1/guides/manage-email-migrations#group_migrate_media_upload
> >
> > Seems to be mixed emotions on adopting Google groups, but it does have a
> > conventional email interface, you do not have to create a google account
> to
> > use the email, and it supports imports.
>
> Given it can be used with emails and the archive can be imported, +1 for
> Google Groups from me too.
>
> Kind regards,
> Luca Boccassi
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Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

[Luca Boccassi]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 14:53 +0800, Jim Idle wrote:
> > On 14.04.2016 09:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> > >> So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our
> > archives.
> > >>
> > >> Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable.
> > >>
> > >> Conventional email interface is a plus.
> > >>
> >
> 
> https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/groups-migration/v1/guides/manage-email-migrations#group_migrate_media_upload
> 
> Seems to be mixed emotions on adopting Google groups, but it does have a
> conventional email interface, you do not have to create a google account to
> use the email, and it supports imports.

Given it can be used with emails and the archive can be imported, +1 for
Google Groups from me too.

Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi


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[zeromq-dev] Google Groups

[Robert Johnston]

Google Groups: it will do the job, it will be there tomorror.

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[zeromq-dev] zeromq/jenkins-debian-glue accidential fork

[Michael Haberler]

sorry for the accidential fork into zeromq/jenkins-debian-glue - deleted

- Michael

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