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againstreservation2007.rediffiland.com/ Sunday 28 October, 2007 10:56 | 28/Oct/2007 | Why the sc/st and muslim candidates donot get job in private sector The study has been published in epw mag,this is false,see the causes 1)the percentage of marks they get in ug or pg level is very low,in case of universitry exam or entrance test. 2)they are the products of quota or minority institutions where they get admitted with relaxable norms and lower criteria-both in qualifying and entrance examination 3)they do the qualifications through quota in all the cases.an upper caste candidate cannot get to study at pg or ug level for stiff competition ,but where as a lower caste comfortably get the chance upto phd. level due to quota .suppose a candidate of higher caste gets first class,in many cases he or she does not get chance in pg level,where a lower caste gets and completes with 40 to 50% marks.how can you say he is more intelligent than the upper caste.so the qualification is not the only factor but the quality of the qualified candidates and the mode of selection process through which he was selected is also the factor.at the end of the day they are doing qualifications with less marks and through quota?how they can be chosen readily in this competition? 4)no of contenders for jobs in lower castes is very much smaller.even the govt finds it difficult to fill up its mandatory quota because even with lower criteria no of eligibles from sc/st/muslim community is not found.now see they are already getting 66% and 33% respectively-so whole picture is not gloomy. 5) IT IS ALSO A FAKE CLAIM THAT PRIVATE SETORS' SELECTION PROCESS IS NOT OPEN OR FAIR.MANY GOVT DEPTS HAVE NO FAIRNESS WHETHER RECRUITING 'SECRTARIES OR PA's.IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE PRIVATE SECTORS DONOT HIRE RIGHT PERSON IN THE RIGHT PLACE AS ALL OF US KNOW VERY WELL THAT PRIVATE SECTORS ARE MAINLY PROFITMAKING CORPORATES AND ORGANISED BY INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS WHICH HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING ON THEIR OWN MONEY OR HAVE TO BORROW IT FROM FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH HIGH RATE OF INTEREST,THERE IS NO SUBSIDY TO COMPENSATE THEIR LOSS ETC ETC.SO THEY ARE MORE CAUTIOUS ABOUT RECRIUTMENT.IF A DALIT OR MUSLIM GETS 90% AND AN UPPER CASTE GETS 5O% THE FORMER WILL BE CHOSEN READILY.. Let dalits and muslims come through open competition,then should tell all these things.when their selection process in higher education is not fair and they are using constitutional backdoors,then how can they argue that they are geeting discriminated.upper caste graduates are essentially more qualified and intelligent than their phds.as they do everything in most of the cases through quota.as long as the qualification is dependent on quota or affirmative action the whole things will be a big zero.govt should stress on equal merit factor not quota or affirmative actions. THIS LETTER HAS BEEN SENT TO ONE OF THE EDITORS TRYING TO THINK BEYOND THE CASTE SIR, THE ARTICLES RELATED TO CASTE BASED DEPRIVATION IN YOUR PUBLICATION ARE SOME EXTENT FAR FROM THE REALITY.THE PEOPLE WHO SHOUTS ABOUT THE CASTE BASED OPPRESSIONS ARE NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THE SO CALLED BACKWARD CLASSES INCLUDING DALITS WHO GET RESERVATION IN GOVT OR PUBLIC SECTOR ARE NOT HIRED BY THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY NOT FOR THEIR CASTES(MAY BE THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS),BUT FOR THEIR INABILITY AND LACK OF SKILL.NO INDUSTRY WILL ALLOW A FORWARD CASTE PEOPLE WITH LOW MARKS AND LOWER QUALIFICATIONS.SO THE ARTICLE WHICH YOU PUBLISHED IS TOTALLY BOGUS AND OLD WINE IN A NEW BOTTLE.MODERN HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM AND MODERN JOB FIELDS ARE NOT CASTE ORIENTED,HERE ONLY QUALITY AND SKILL MATTER.THERE MAY BE VARNASHRAMA IN SOCIETY ,BUT THAT DOES NOT GIVE MORALITY TO ORGANISE SO CALLED AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS AS WE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE AGE OF VARNASHRAMA BASED EDUCATION SYSTEM.A PERSON WHO HAS WOUND ON THE FOOT ,DOCTORS SHOULD DO THE DRESSING THERE,NOT ON THE HEAD.THE PROBLEM OF SO CALLED BACKWARD CLASSES INCLUDING DALITS AND MUSLIMS IS NOT THAT THEY GET DEPRIVATION IN THE HIGHER EDUCATION AND JOB.LACK OF GOOD PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION,LACK OF BASIC HEALTH CARE ARE THE MAIN FACTORS.THOSE WHO HAVE GOOD PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION CAN EASILY COMPETE IN ENTRANCE TESTS.THOSE WHO HAVE GOOD BASE IN HIGHER EDUCATIONS ,DONOT NEED TO RUN FOR RESERVATION IN JOBS AS BEGGARS.THE DALITS AND THE SO CALLED OPPRESSEDS GAIN THE QUALIFICATION IN CASE OF HIGHER EDUCATION THROUGH RELAXABLE NORMS AND THAT IS THE MAIN CONCERN.THE UPPER CASTES WHO GET GOOD JOBS IN PRIVATE SECTORS ARE WITH MORE HIGH MARKS THAN THEIR SO CALLED OPPRESSED COUNTERPARTS IN MOST OF THE CASES,SO HERE NOT ONLY THE QUALIFICATIONS BUT ALSO THE QUALITY ,SKILL AND MERIT OF THE QUALIFIED PERSONALS ARE ALSO IMPORTANT.IF A DALIT OR BACKWARD GETS 90% AND AN UPPER CASTE GETS 5O% THE FORMER WILL BE CHOSEN READILY.BUT IN INDIA IN MOST OF THE CASES THE SO CALLED OPPRESSOR UPPER CASTE CANDIDATES ARE WITH MORE HIGH MARKS,BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PRODUCT OF OPEN COMPETITION NOT THE PRODUCT OF QUOTA AND RELAXABLE NORMS OR SO CALLED AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS.UNFORTUNATELY YOUR PUBLICATION ARE AVOIDING THESE FACTORS.MANY OF YOUR WRITERS OPPOSE RESERVATION ON THE BASIS OF ECONOMIC CRITERIA?WHY THIS ALERGY IN YOUR WRITERS?PLEASE COME CLEAN.CLASS DOES NOT DEPEND ON CASTE ONLY,IT IS ALSO ABOUT RICH-POOR CLASSIFICATION.THE INDIVIDUALISM IS ALSO A KEY ISSUE OF MODERN SOCIETY AND IT HAS BEEN SECURED BY THE CONSTITUTION ALSO.MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SUFFERS FROM POVERTY AND CANNOT ACCESS HIGHER EDUCATION AND WHO DONOT BELONG TO SC/ST/OBC,ALSO FORM A CLASS WHICH IS ALSO SUPPRESSED.I HAD A TALK WITH ONE OF MY YADAV FRIENDS WHO TOLD THAT RESERVATION SHOULD BE ON THE BASIS OFF ECONOMICAL CRITERIA.IF I TAKE THE VIEW THAT PARTICPATION OF BACKWARD CASTEs IS NEEDED,THEN AT THE SAME TIME I CANNOT FORGET THAT PARTICIPATIONS OF POORS IRRESPECTIVE OF CASTE ,CREED AND RELIGION IS ALSO NECESSARY.IF I DENY THEN SURELY I AM A HYPOCRETE WHO ALWAYS WEAR SPECTACLES OF CASTE BASED DEPRIVATION.IN CASE OF RESERVATION,I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GENERAL CATEGORY DOES NOT REFLECT OR SUGGEST ANY PARTICULAR CASTE,CREED,COMMUNITY OR RELIGION.IT ALWAYS SUGGESTS THAT A CANDIDATE OR A STUDENT SHOULD BE SEEN AS A STUDENT OR CANDIDATE.HERE THERE IS NO STORY OF DEPRIVATION WHICH YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD IN A WRONG WAY.SO ALL PERSONS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS GENERAL CATEGORY.BERMUDA CANNOT CLAIM RELAXATION AGAINST AUSTRALIA IN ANYWAY.SO SO CALLED STORY OF DEPRIVATION AND THE THEORY OF SO CALLED DEPRIVATION DONOT GIVE THE MORALITY TO CLAIM RESERVATION.THE PERSON WHO GETS HIGHER EDUCATION THROUGH RESERVATION HAS NO RIGHT TO RUN FOR AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS IN JOBS ,IF HE OR SHE RUNS FOR IT THEN THERE MAY BE THREE CAUSES- 1)HE IS WORTHLESS BECAUSE WHAT WAS GIVEN TO HIM,HE COULD NOT USE IT PROPERLY AND HE DID NOT GET THE ABILITY TO BE IN THE RESPECTIVE COURSE 2)THE TEACHING PATTERN OR STANDARD OF HIGHER EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS DOES NOT SUIT HIM(THOUGH IT IS A LAME EXCUSE AS WITH THE SAME EDUCATION SYSTEM THE UPPER CASTES OR OPEN CANDIDATES ARE DOING SO WELL) 3)A RESERVED CATEGORY CANDIDATE KNOWS THAT HE WILL BE GIVEN JOBS IN RELAXABLE NORMS AND CRITERIA AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CHAMPIONS OF SOCIAL JUSTICE WHO WILL MAKE ROOM FOR THEM ANYWAY.SO WHAT IS THE NEED TO STUDY WELL? IT IS ALSO A FAKE CLAIM THAT PRIVATE SETORS' SELECTION PROCESS IS NOT OPEN OR FAIR.MANY GOVT DEPTS HAVE NO FAIRNESS WHETHER RECRUITING 'SECRTARIES OR PA's.IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE PRIVATE SECTORS DONOT HIRE RIGHT PERSON IN THE RIGHT PLACE AS ALL OF US KNOW VERY WELL THAT PRIVATE SECTORS ARE MAINLY PROFITMAKING CORPORATES AND ORGANISED BY INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS WHICH HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING ON THEIR OWN MONEY OR HAVE TO BORROW IT FROM FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH HIGH RATE OF INTEREST,THERE IS NO SUBSIDY TO COMPENSATE THEIR LOSS ETC ETC.SO THEY ARE MORE CAUTIOUS ABOUT RECRIUTMENT AND THAT IS THEIR RIGHT.THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING ENOUGH TO THE INDIAN ECONOMY BY PAYING HUGE TAXES AND SPONSORING DIFFERENT FIELD,EVEN SOME OF THEM OFFER SCHOLERSHIPS AND CONTRIBUTE ENOUGH IN THE FIELD OF RESEARCH,SO IN THIS CASE GOVT HAS NO RIGHT TO INERVEN . IT SHOULD BE ALSO TOLD THAT AN UPPER CASTE CANDIDATE HAS NOT COMMITTED ANY SIN TO BE BORN AS UPPER CASTE AND HE OR SHE HAS NOT COMMITTED CRIME BY SECURING MORE MARKS IN ENTRANCE TESTS OR GETTING HIGHER POSITIONS BY OWN ABILITY DEFEATING A SO CALLED BACKWARD CANDIDATE.PRO –QUOTA ACTIVISTS HAS AN SIMPLIFIED IDEA THAT ALL UPPER CASTE PERSONS ARE SOLVENT.AND THIS IS THEIR SIN.ACCORDING TO THE PRO-QUOTA ACTIVISTS UPPER CASTE HOLDS THE LARGER SHARE IN CASE OF HIGHER EDUCATION AND JOBS,THEN THEY SHOULD ALSO ADMIT THAT THE FORWARD CASTE PEOPLE ALSO PAY THE MAXIMUM TAX FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COUNTRY.BUT SURPRSINGLY THEY ARE ENGAGED IN ACCUSING THE CASTE SYSTEM TO WHICH UPPER CASTES ARE THE INTEGRAL PART BUT NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE UPPER CASTES.WE SHOULD NOT FORGET MOST OF THE GOOD THINGS OF INTERNATIONAL STADARD IN CASE OF EDUCATION,SCIENCE,LITERATURE,CULTURE,INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE SO CALLED OPPRESSOR UPPER CASTES,NOT BY THEIR CASTE IDENTITY BUT BY THEIR ABILITY,MERIT AND COMPETITIVENESS.HOW MANY GOOD PERSONS WE HAVE GOT TILL NOW THROUGH RESERVATION?REMEMBER DR AMBEDKAR,JOTIBA FULE,OUR HONOURABLE CHIEF JUSTICE SIR,LALUJI,MUSLIM USTADS AND SINGERS ARE NOT THE PRODUCT OF RESERVATIONS.SO WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THERE MAY BE SEVERAL PROS AND CONS,BUT IF THERE IS QUALITY ,THAT WILL BE ADMIRED AND WE SHOULD FOLLOW THAT PATH RATHER ROAMING IN THE BHULBULAIYA OF SO CALLED PATH OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS.WE RIGHTLY NEED ABILITY BUILDING PROGRAMME AND SHOULD ENSURE THAT THE COMPETITIVENESS IS BEING WELCOMED RATHER WELCOMING LOW GRADED PERSONS ON THE BASIS OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE/WERE OPPRESSED.WE NEED TO HELP THEM TO STAND ,NEED NOT MAKE THEM THE BEGGARS OF QUOTAS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD MANY OF THE PRO-QUOTA IDEOLOGUE BLAMED THE MEDIA ACCUSING THAT THEY ARE PREACHING UPPER CASTE IDEAS AS MEDIA IS DOMINATED BY THE SO CALLED UPPER CASTES.IT IS ALSO A FALSE CLAIM ,IF MEDIA STANDS FOR QUALITY AND MERIT.MANY OF THE PRO-QUOTA ARGUMENTS QUESTIONED THE IDEA OF MERIT,THIS IS ALSO LIKE A FLOP JOKE.A CRICKETR OR A PLAYER IS JUDGED BY THE STATISTICS OR RECORDS.IF MARKS OF QUALIFYING EXAMS AND THE MARKS OF ENTRANCE TEST EXAMS ARE USED TO JUDGE A CANDIDATE,THEN WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT?QUALITY IS QUALITY ,WHATEVER BE THE CASTE,CREED,RELIGION OR CLASS.AN AMERICAN MISSILE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN AN INDIAN MISSILE AND INDIA CANNOT CLAIM THAT AS A THIRD WORLD NATION AND AS AN OPPRESSED NATION HER MISSILE SHOULD BE ANNOUNCED AS MORE OR EQUALLY QUALIFIED THAN THE AMERICAN ONE.COMPETITION IS COMPETITION,RIGHT TO COMPETE IS AN UNIVERSAL RIGHT AND GETTING CLEARED ACCORDING TO ENTRANCE TEST MARKS IS ALSO AN UNIVERSAL RIGHT BUT CLAIMING PROPORTIONATE WINNING CANNOT BE SUPPORTED ANYWAY.HIGHER EDUCATION SEATS AND JOBS ARE NOT LIKE CAKE,BISCUIT,WHEAT ,RICE AND CLOTHS OF DARIDRANARAYANA SEVA WHICH SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY ACCORDING TO THE PROPORTIONATE POPULATION AND IN A SAME COMPETITION OR IN A SAME GAME IT IS UNETHICAL TO MAKE DIFFERENT RULES FOR DIFFERENT TEAMS,DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.INDIAN FOOTBALL TEAM CANNOT QUALIFY IN FIFA WORLD CUP,BUT THE FIFA CANNOT GIVE ANYTYPE OF RELAXATION,BUT THEY CAN OFFERE MONEY AND ASSISTANCE TO PROVIDE GOOD COACHING FACILITY ,GOOD SPONSORS ,GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE,AND THAT IS VERY MUCH NECESSARY.THE GOVERNMENT AND SO CALLED PRO QUOTA ACTIVISTS SHOULD CONSTRUCT GOOD TRAINING SCHOOL ALONG WITH GOOD HIGHER SECONDARY SCHOOLS WITH ADEQUATE TEACHERS,INFRASTRUCTURE,STUDY AND WRITING MATERIALS,GOOD HOSTEL FACILITIES-IF THEY CAN DO THIS AND EXTEND IT TO THE RURAL AREAS ALSO ,IT WILL DO THE MAGIC IN A VERY SCIENTIFIC MANNER.WE NEED RIGHT PERSON IN THE RIGHT PLACE WITH PROPER EDUCATIONAL ABILITY AND SKILL,UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS COUNTRY EVEN TEACHERS ARE SELECTED ON THE BASIS OF CASTES AND RELIGION.MARGINALISED PEOPLE SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN THE WAY OF DEVELOPMENT IS AN ACCEPTED FACT,THE MARGINALISED PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM POVERTY ALSO NEEDS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION(WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN ADDRESSED EVEN BY THE LEARNED SOCIOLOGISTS WHO WEAR THE MUSK OF SOCIAL JUSTICE)-BUT THERE IS A MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION THROUGH WHICH WAY-THROUGH RESERVATION WITH RELAXABLE NORMS,WHICH BURDENS THE SYSTEMS WITH SECOND GRADED PEOPLE (IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER YOU ADMIT OR DENY)OR THROUGH GIVING BASIC ACCESS TO THE BASIC NEEDS AND UPGRADING THEIR COMPETITIVE SKILLS AND MAKING THEM ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL THE SPHERES MORE FAIRLY? 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