Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-16 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
That still points to an apache foundation server and given the naming vote
we might not be allowed to re-use it.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Chen Xiongjie x...@ez.no wrote:

 Hi all,

 Shouldn't domain zetacomponents.org (i.e. l...@zetacomponent.org) be
 better?

 Best regards
 Chen
 ---
 Chen Xiongjie
 Professional Services

 eZ Systems
 On May 15, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

  On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Derick Rethans der...@apache.org
 wrote:
  On Tue, 15 May 2012, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 
  In addition you guys need to urgently make up new mailinglists - Infra
  might close zeta-dev@incubator.apache.org pretty soon.
 
  There is a mailinglist already:
 
  Great :-)
  Thanks for the link!
 
  z...@lists.xdebug.org
 
  You can subscribe to it by sending a mail to ecar...@lists.xdebug.org
  with subject subscribe zeta.
 
  cheers,
  Derick
 
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Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-15 Thread Nicolas Pastorino
Hi everyone,

I just stumbled upon this, which is clearly cracking open the news :
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Zeta-Components-leaves-the-Apache-Foundation-1575327.html

and wondered whether I could go ahead and publish by the eZ Community (blog
post openly crafted here :
https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
 )

Cheers,
-- 
Nicolas

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.dewrote:

 The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
 trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.


 Ok, and thanks Julien for raising the point too.
 I will then wait until we receive a response from the foundation.



 Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
 from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports anymore
 due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
 flag out.


 This point was added to the post.



 The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done to
 seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)


 Added too.

 The draft still is available here :

 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit

 Thanks everyone for the feedback,
 Awaiting the final name before publishing, feel free to send additional
 input in the meantime,
 --
 Nicolas



 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard jvermill...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
  would like to remeber two points :
  - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
  - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
  Apache PR for that
 
  Julien
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
   Dear everyone,
  
   I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the
 loop,
   since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
  
   Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
   (anyone
   should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
  
   I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
   --
   Nicolas
 





Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
In addition you guys need to urgently make up new mailinglists - Infra
might close zeta-dev@incubator.apache.org pretty soon.
My expectation is that you can use Zeta Components to your own liking,
just make sure your homepage is reflecting that you are  not longer
associated with the ASF. So far there are zero reactions/objections to
the naming and Shane is not opposed (he is the VP of trademarks)

Cheers
Christian

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de wrote:
 We still not have a decision on the naming of Zeta in the future, which
 should be reflected in the post. It might be necessary to rename the
 project given the Apache Trademarks decision. Also i don't think it should
 be linked to the Github repository yet since that can still change due to
 the naming issue, so maybe split the article into two articles and just
 publish the current state for now with a reference to future posts about
 the final decisions?

 greetings,
 Benjamin

 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just stumbled upon this, which is clearly cracking open the news :

 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Zeta-Components-leaves-the-Apache-Foundation-1575327.html

 and wondered whether I could go ahead and publish by the eZ Community (blog
 post openly crafted here :

 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
  )

 Cheers,
 --
 Nicolas

 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:

  Hi,
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de
 wrote:
 
  The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
  trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.
 
 
  Ok, and thanks Julien for raising the point too.
  I will then wait until we receive a response from the foundation.
 
 
 
  Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
  from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports
 anymore
  due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
  flag out.
 
 
  This point was added to the post.
 
 
 
  The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done
 to
  seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)
 
 
  Added too.
 
  The draft still is available here :
 
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
 
  Thanks everyone for the feedback,
  Awaiting the final name before publishing, feel free to send additional
  input in the meantime,
  --
  Nicolas
 
 
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard 
 jvermill...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
   would like to remeber two points :
   - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
   - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
   Apache PR for that
  
   Julien
  
   On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no
 wrote:
Dear everyone,
   
I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the
  loop,
since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
   
Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input
 :
   
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
(anyone
should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
   
I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback
 !
--
Nicolas
  
 
 
 




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Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-15 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 15 May 2012, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

 In addition you guys need to urgently make up new mailinglists - Infra
 might close zeta-dev@incubator.apache.org pretty soon.

There is a mailinglist already:

z...@lists.xdebug.org

You can subscribe to it by sending a mail to ecar...@lists.xdebug.org 
with subject subscribe zeta.

cheers,
Derick

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Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Derick Rethans der...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, 15 May 2012, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

 In addition you guys need to urgently make up new mailinglists - Infra
 might close zeta-dev@incubator.apache.org pretty soon.

 There is a mailinglist already:

Great :-)
Thanks for the link!

 z...@lists.xdebug.org

 You can subscribe to it by sending a mail to ecar...@lists.xdebug.org
 with subject subscribe zeta.

 cheers,
 Derick

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 http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org
 Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php
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Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-15 Thread Chen Xiongjie
Hi all,

Shouldn't domain zetacomponents.org (i.e. l...@zetacomponent.org) be better?

Best regards
Chen
---
Chen Xiongjie
Professional Services

eZ Systems
On May 15, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Derick Rethans der...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, 15 May 2012, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 
 In addition you guys need to urgently make up new mailinglists - Infra
 might close zeta-dev@incubator.apache.org pretty soon.
 
 There is a mailinglist already:
 
 Great :-)
 Thanks for the link!
 
 z...@lists.xdebug.org
 
 You can subscribe to it by sending a mail to ecar...@lists.xdebug.org
 with subject subscribe zeta.
 
 cheers,
 Derick
 
 --
 http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org
 Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php
 twitter: @derickr and @xdebug
 
 
 
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Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-05-03 Thread Nicolas Pastorino
Hi,

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.dewrote:

 The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
 trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.


Ok, and thanks Julien for raising the point too.
I will then wait until we receive a response from the foundation.



 Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
 from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports anymore
 due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
 flag out.


This point was added to the post.



 The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done to
 seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)


Added too.

The draft still is available here :
https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit

Thanks everyone for the feedback,
Awaiting the final name before publishing, feel free to send additional
input in the meantime,
-- 
Nicolas



 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard jvermill...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
  would like to remeber two points :
  - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
  - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
  Apache PR for that
 
  Julien
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
   Dear everyone,
  
   I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the
 loop,
   since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
  
   Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
   (anyone
   should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
  
   I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
   --
   Nicolas
 



Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-04-26 Thread Julien Vermillard
Hi,

Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
would like to remeber two points :
- the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
- if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
Apache PR for that

Julien

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
 Dear everyone,

 I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the loop,
 since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.

 Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
 (anyone
 should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).

 I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
 --
 Nicolas


Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-04-26 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.

Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports anymore
due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
flag out.

The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done to
seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard jvermill...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
 would like to remeber two points :
 - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
 - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
 Apache PR for that

 Julien

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
  Dear everyone,
 
  I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the loop,
  since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
 
  Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
  (anyone
  should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
 
  I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
  --
  Nicolas



Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-04-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de wrote:
 The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
 trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.

I can confirm this has made its way into some private mailinglists and
people are discussing it already.

Cheers


 Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
 from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports anymore
 due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
 flag out.

 The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done to
 seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard 
 jvermill...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
 would like to remeber two points :
 - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
 - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
 Apache PR for that

 Julien

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
  Dear everyone,
 
  I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the loop,
  since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
 
  Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
  (anyone
  should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
 
  I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
  --
  Nicolas




-- 
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https://www.timeandbill.de


Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-04-26 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
@Christian thats good to know, i don't get mails back from the list i sent
the naming question too. Its probably summed up and sent back to this list
when final decision is made?

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de
 wrote:
  The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
  trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.

 I can confirm this has made its way into some private mailinglists and
 people are discussing it already.

 Cheers

 
  Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
  from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports
 anymore
  due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
  flag out.
 
  The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done to
  seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard 
 jvermill...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
  would like to remeber two points :
  - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
  - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
  Apache PR for that
 
  Julien
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
   Dear everyone,
  
   I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the
 loop,
   since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
  
   Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
   (anyone
   should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
  
   I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
   --
   Nicolas
 



 --
 http://www.grobmeier.de
 https://www.timeandbill.de



Re: [call for review] Keeping the eZ Publish Community in the loop

2012-04-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de wrote:
 @Christian thats good to know, i don't get mails back from the list i sent
 the naming question too. Its probably summed up and sent back to this list
 when final decision is made?

If not, Julien and I are both subscribed to the relevant lists and we
will come back to you with information. But actually I expect you get
a direct response from the Trademarks Officer.

Cheers
Christian


 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Christian Grobmeier 
 grobme...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.de
 wrote:
  The naming is completely undecided yet, we have contacted apache
  trademarks, since we don't know how to proceed.

 I can confirm this has made its way into some private mailinglists and
 people are discussing it already.

 Cheers

 
  Also i agree with julien, the inactivity was the major reason to retire
  from ASF, since we couldnt follow procedure with quarterly reports
 anymore
  due to lack of time and didnt manage to get a first release under Apache
  flag out.
 
  The seperation of components into their own repositories are also done to
  seperate the maintained from the unmaintained ones more easily :-)
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julien Vermillard 
 jvermill...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Even if I think it's a good idea to keep the community in the loop I
  would like to remeber two points :
  - the zeta podling retirement vote was start due to lack of progress
  - if you want to use the Apache/ASF word you need to contact the
  Apache PR for that
 
  Julien
 
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nicolas Pastorino n...@ez.no wrote:
   Dear everyone,
  
   I thought it would be wise to keep the eZ Publish Community in the
 loop,
   since they are likely to be the largest share of AZC users today.
  
   Here is a small blog-post, on which I would love to have your input :
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/a/ez.no/document/d/1SLuBI6HQqX_PJnswCOaV6MyW2AbOd0-1wTDwhHIf3f4/edit
   (anyone
   should be able to edit it, or make remarks through comments).
  
   I hope this fits you well and I am looking forward to your feedback !
   --
   Nicolas
 



 --
 http://www.grobmeier.de
 https://www.timeandbill.de




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