Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Rainer J.H. Brandt
David Hopwood writes: > Note also that mounting a filesystem read-only does not guarantee that > the disk will not be written, because of atime updates (this is arguably > a Unix design flaw, but still has to be taken into account). So r may I can mount with the -noatime option. > I don't understa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Boyd Adamson
On 27/08/2007, at 12:36 AM, Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > Sorry, this is a bit off-topic, but anyway: > > Ronald Kuehn writes: >> No. You can neither access ZFS nor UFS in that way. Only one >> host can mount the file system at the same time (read/write or >> read-only doesn't matter here). > > I can

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is there _any_ suitable motherboard?

2007-08-26 Thread Ian Collins
Ben Middleton wrote: > I've just purchased an Asus P5K WS, which seems to work OK. I had to download > the Marvell Yukon ethernet driver - but it's all working fine. It's also got > a PCI-X slot - so I have one of those Super Micro 8 port SATA cards - > providing a total of 16 SATA ports across

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is there _any_ suitable motherboard?

2007-08-26 Thread Nathan Kroenert
For what it's worth, I bought a Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 a couple of months ago and it rocks on a reasonably current Nevada. Certainly not the cheapest or most expensive, but I felt a good choice for multiple PCI-E slots and a couple of PCI slots. http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Pr

[zfs-discuss] NV_65 AMD64 - ZFS seems to write fast and slow to a single spindle

2007-08-26 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Hey all - Just saw something really weird. I have been playing with by box for a little while now, and just noticed something whilst checking how fast / slow my IDE ports were on a newish motherboard... I had been copying around an image. Not a particularly large one - 500M ISO... I had been

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is there _any_ suitable motherboard?

2007-08-26 Thread Ben Middleton
I've just purchased an Asus P5K WS, which seems to work OK. I had to download the Marvell Yukon ethernet driver - but it's all working fine. It's also got a PCI-X slot - so I have one of those Super Micro 8 port SATA cards - providing a total of 16 SATA ports across the system. Other specs are o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread David Hopwood
Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > Ronald, > > thanks for your comments. > > I was thinking about this scenario: > > Host w continuously has a UFS mounted with read/write access. > Host w writes to the file f/ff/fff. > Host w ceases to touch anything under f. > Three hours later, host r mounts the file

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Jim Dunham
Rainer, If you are looking for a means to safely "READ" any filesystem, please take a look at Availability Suite. One can safely take Point-in-Time copies of any Solaris supported filesystem, including ZFS, at any snapshot interval of one's choosing, and then access the shadow volume on any

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread michael schuster
Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > Ronald, > > thanks for your comments. > > I was thinking about this scenario: > > Host w continuously has a UFS mounted with read/write access. > Host w writes to the file f/ff/fff. > Host w ceases to touch anything under f. > Three hours later, host r mounts the file

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Rainer J.H. Brandt
Ronald, thanks for your comments. I was thinking about this scenario: Host w continuously has a UFS mounted with read/write access. Host w writes to the file f/ff/fff. Host w ceases to touch anything under f. Three hours later, host r mounts the file system read-only, reads f/ff/fff, and unmount

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Casper . Dik
>Yes, thank you for confirming what I said. > >So it is possible, but not recommended, because I must take care >not to read from files for which buffers haven't been flushed yet. Not, it's much worse than that: UFS will not re-read cached data for the read-only mount so the read-only mount wil

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Ronald Kuehn
On Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 17:47:32 CEST, Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > Ronald Kuehn writes: > > On Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 16:36:26 CEST, Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > > > > > Ronald Kuehn writes: > > > > No. You can neither access ZFS nor UFS in that way. Only one > > > > host can mount the fi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Rainer J.H. Brandt
Tim, thanks for answering... > > > > > > > ...but please don't send HTML, if possible. > > Try this explanation.. > > Host A mounts UFS file system rw > Hosts B-C mount sam UFS file system read only > > In natural scheme of things hosts B-C read files and cache > metadata about the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Rainer J.H. Brandt
Ronald Kuehn writes: > On Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 16:36:26 CEST, Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > > > Ronald Kuehn writes: > > > No. You can neither access ZFS nor UFS in that way. Only one > > > host can mount the file system at the same time (read/write or > > > read-only doesn't matter here). > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Ronald Kuehn
On Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 16:36:26 CEST, Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: > Ronald Kuehn writes: > > No. You can neither access ZFS nor UFS in that way. Only one > > host can mount the file system at the same time (read/write or > > read-only doesn't matter here). > > I can see why you wouldn't reco

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1+hopspare on X4500 ,can I ?

2007-08-26 Thread zhanjinwei
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Tim Thomas
Rainer Try this explanation.. Host A mounts UFS file system rw Hosts B-C mount sam UFS file system read only In natural scheme of things hosts B-C read files and cache metadata about the files and file system. Host A changes the file system. The metadata that hosts B-C have cached is now in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-26 Thread Rainer J.H. Brandt
Sorry, this is a bit off-topic, but anyway: Ronald Kuehn writes: > No. You can neither access ZFS nor UFS in that way. Only one > host can mount the file system at the same time (read/write or > read-only doesn't matter here). I can see why you wouldn't recommend trying this with UFS (only one ho