Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + fragments

2007-11-21 Thread Roch - PAE
Moore, Joe writes: Louwtjie Burger wrote: Richard Elling wrote: - COW probably makes that conflict worse This needs to be proven with a reproducible, real-world workload before it makes sense to try to solve it. After all, if we cannot measure where

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + fragments

2007-11-21 Thread can you guess?
In order to be reasonably representative of a real-world situation, I'd suggest the following additions: 1) create a large file (bigger than main memory) on an empty ZFS pool. 1a. The pool should include entire disks, not small partitions (else seeks will be artificially short). 1b. The

[zfs-discuss] offlining a storage pool

2007-11-21 Thread Ben
Hi, I would like to offline an entire storage pool (not some devices), ( I want to stop all io activity to the pool) Maybe it could be implemented with a a command like : zpool offline -f tank which should implicity do a zfs unmount tank I use zfs with solaris 10 update 4. Thanks, Ben

Re: [zfs-discuss] offlining a storage pool

2007-11-21 Thread Will Murnane
On Nov 21, 2007 10:09 AM, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to offline an entire storage pool (not some devices), ( I want to stop all io activity to the pool) How is this different from 'zpool export tank'? Will ___ zfs-discuss mailing

Re: [zfs-discuss] offlining a storage pool

2007-11-21 Thread Jason P. Warr
I'm guessing that if you could offline the pool you'd still see it listed in zpool status. Other than that I can't think of a reason. - Original Message - From: Will Murnane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + fragments

2007-11-21 Thread Moore, Joe
BillTodd wrote: In order to be reasonably representative of a real-world situation, I'd suggest the following additions: Your suggestions (make the benchmark big enough so seek times are really noticed) are good. I'm hoping that over the holidays, I'll get to play with an extra server...

Re: [zfs-discuss] [perf-discuss] [storage-discuss] zpool io to 6140 is really slow

2007-11-21 Thread Asif Iqbal
On Nov 21, 2007 10:37 AM, Lion, Oren-P64304 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently tweaked Oracle (8K blocks, log_buffer gt 2M) on a Solaris Oracle here is setup as 16K and 2G log buffer. I am using a testpool with raid0 of 6 10K RPM FC disks (2 from each of 3 trays). I played with 16K and 32K

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + fragments

2007-11-21 Thread can you guess?
... This needs to be proven with a reproducible, real-world workload before it makes sense to try to solve it. After all, if we cannot measure where we are, how can we prove that we've improved? Ah - Tests Measurements types: you've just gotta love 'em. Wife: Darling, is there really

[zfs-discuss] iSCSI target using ZFS filesystem as backing

2007-11-21 Thread John Tracy
Hello All- I'm working on a Sun Ultra 80 M2 workstation. It has eight 750 GB SATA disks installed. I've tried the following on both ON build 72, Solaris 10 update 4, and Indiana with the same results. If I create a ZFS filesystem using 1-7 hard drives (I've tried 1 and 7), and then try to

[zfs-discuss] Problem with sharing multiple zfs file systems

2007-11-21 Thread Simon Gao
Here is one issue I am running into when setting up a new NFS server to share several zfs file systems. I created following zfs file system from a zfs pool called bigpool. The bigpool is the top level file system and mounted as /export/bigpool. file system mount point

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + DB + fragments

2007-11-21 Thread James Cone
OK, I'll bite; it's not like I'm getting an answer to my other question. Bill, please explain why deciding what to do about sequential scan performance in ZFS is urgent? ie why it's urgent rather than important (I agree that if it's bad then it's going to be important eventually). ie

Re: [zfs-discuss] Firewire zpool transport rejected fatal error, 6560174

2007-11-21 Thread aric
This bug is still not integrated? To upgrade to a community release I still have to patch and compile the kernel? How can this bug fix be integrated with the code? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] iSCSI target using ZFS filesystem as backing

2007-11-21 Thread Jim Dunham
John, I'm working on a Sun Ultra 80 M2 workstation. It has eight 750 GB SATA disks installed. I've tried the following on both ON build 72, Solaris 10 update 4, and Indiana with the same results. If I create a ZFS filesystem using 1-7 hard drives (I've tried 1 and 7), and then try to

[zfs-discuss] User-visible non-blocking / atomic ops in ZFS

2007-11-21 Thread James Cone
Hello All, Is any of the following available in ZFS, or is there any plan to add it? - persistent atomic-inc/atomic-dec of a group of bytes in a file? - LL/SC or Compare-and-swap of a group of bytes in a file, or a whole file - multiple renames, where: - all or none of them

[zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread Anil Jangity
I have pool called data. I have zones configured in that pool. The zonepath is: /data/zone1/fs. (/data/zone1 itself is not used for anything else, by anyone, and has no other data.) There are no datasets being delegated to this zone. I want to create a snapshot that I would want to make

Re: [zfs-discuss] User-visible non-blocking / atomic ops in ZFS

2007-11-21 Thread can you guess?
I'm going to combine three posts here because they all involve jcone: First, as to my message heading: The 'search forum' mechanism can't find his posts under the 'jcone' name (I was curious, because they're interesting/strange, depending on how one looks at them). I've also noticed (once in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread James C. McPherson
Anil Jangity wrote: I have pool called data. I have zones configured in that pool. The zonepath is: /data/zone1/fs. (/data/zone1 itself is not used for anything else, by anyone, and has no other data.) There are no datasets being delegated to this zone. I want to create a snapshot that I

Re: [zfs-discuss] User-visible non-blocking / atomic ops in ZFS

2007-11-21 Thread James Cone
Hi Bill, Yes, that covers all of my selfish questions, thanks. The B-trees I'm used to tree divide in arbitrary places across the whole key, so doing partial-key queries is painful. I can't find Structured File System Transarc usefully in Google. Do you have a link handy? If not, never

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread John Wren Kennedy
Anil Jangity wrote: I have pool called data. I have zones configured in that pool. The zonepath is: /data/zone1/fs. (/data/zone1 itself is not used for anything else, by anyone, and has no other data.) There are no datasets being delegated to this zone. I want to create a snapshot that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread Anil Jangity
Thanks James/John! That link specifically mentions new Solaris 10 release, so I am assuming that means going from like u4 to Sol 10 u5, and that shouldn't cause a problem when doing plain patchadd's (w/o live upgrade). If so, then I am fine with those warnings and can use zfs with zones' path.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Collins
James C. McPherson wrote: Anil Jangity wrote: I have pool called data. I have zones configured in that pool. The zonepath is: /data/zone1/fs. (/data/zone1 itself is not used for anything else, by anyone, and has no other data.) There are no datasets being delegated to this zone. I want

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread James C. McPherson
Ian Collins wrote: ... I don't know if anything else breaks when you do this, but if you are building software in a zone on a lofs filesystem, dmake hangs. Regular make works fine. The output from truss is: stat64(/export/home, 0x08045B60) = 0 llseek(8, 0, SEEK_CUR) = 0 llseek(8, 0,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Collins
James C. McPherson wrote: Ian Collins wrote: ... I don't know if anything else breaks when you do this, but if you are building software in a zone on a lofs filesystem, dmake hangs. Regular make works fine. The output from truss is: stat64(/export/home, 0x08045B60) = 0 llseek(8, 0,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS layout recommendations

2007-11-21 Thread James C. McPherson
Ian Collins wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Ian Collins wrote: ... I don't know if anything else breaks when you do this, but if you are building software in a zone on a lofs filesystem, dmake hangs. Regular make works fine. The output from truss is: stat64(/export/home, 0x08045B60) =

[zfs-discuss] Home Motherboard

2007-11-21 Thread Rob Logan
grew tired of the recycled 32bit cpus in http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=127555 and bought this to put the two marvell88sx cards in: $255 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBE.cfm

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why did resilvering restart?

2007-11-21 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 11:39:30AM -0600, Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 11:10:20AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/20/2007 10:11:50 AM: On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 10:01:49AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Resilver and scrub are broken and

Re: [zfs-discuss] User-visible non-blocking / atomic ops in ZFS

2007-11-21 Thread can you guess?
The B-trees I'm used to tree divide in arbitrary places across the whole key, so doing partial-key queries is painful. While the b-trees in DEC's Record Management Services (RMS) allowed multi-segment keys, they treated the entire key as a byte-string as far as prefix searches went (i.e.,