Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root boot failure?

2008-06-12 Thread Kurt Schreiner
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:38:56AM +0200, Richard Elling wrote: Vincent Fox wrote: So I decided to test out failure modes of ZFS root mirrors. Installed on a V240 with nv90. Worked great. Pulled out disk1, then replaced it and attached again, resilvered, all good. Now I pull out

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root boot failure?

2008-06-12 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:43:26PM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: AFAIK, SVM will not handle this problem well. ZFS and Solaris Cluster can detect this because the configuration metadata knows the time difference (ZFS can detect this by the latest txg). Having been through this myself with

[zfs-discuss] ZFS dependent clones question

2008-06-12 Thread Yiannis
Hi, After managing to upgrade to svn90 after a few failed attempts, I was left with a ton of zfs datasets (see previous post) most of which I've managed to destroy, however there's something that stumps me NAME USED AVAIL REFER

[zfs-discuss] Boot from mirrored vdev

2008-06-12 Thread Rich Teer
Hi all, Booting from a two-way mirrored metadevice created using SVM can be a bit risky, especially when one of the drives fail (not being able to form a quarum, the kernel will panic). Is booting from mirrored vdev created by using ZFS similarly iffy? That is, if one disk in the vdev dies, will

Re: [zfs-discuss] Boot from mirrored vdev

2008-06-12 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 07:29:08AM -0700, Rich Teer wrote: Hi all, Booting from a two-way mirrored metadevice created using SVM can be a bit risky, especially when one of the drives fail (not being able to form a quarum, the kernel will panic). SVM doesn't panic in that situation. At boot

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root boot failure?

2008-06-12 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 07:28:23AM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: I think something else that might help is if ZFS were to boot, see that the volume it booted from is older than the other one, print a message to that effect and either halt the machine or issue a reboot pointing at the other

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root boot failure?

2008-06-12 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Vincent, I think you are running into some existing bugs, particularly this one: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6668666 Please review the list of known issues here: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/ Also check out the issues described on page 77 in this section:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root boot failure?

2008-06-12 Thread Richard Elling
Kurt Schreiner wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:38:56AM +0200, Richard Elling wrote: Vincent Fox wrote: So I decided to test out failure modes of ZFS root mirrors. Installed on a V240 with nv90. Worked great. Pulled out disk1, then replaced it and attached again, resilvered, all

[zfs-discuss] zfs root / cannot activate new BE

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Lees
i folks i have set up a new BE on zfs root, but it does not want to activate. server is build 90, x86 (64 bit) i already have 2 other BE's on UFS/SVM when i try to activate the zfs BE it seems OK, but on reboot now zfs BE option is shown in grub. i have 2 disks: disk 1 has the 2 SVM

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root boot failure?

2008-06-12 Thread Kurt Schreiner
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 07:31:49PM +0200, Richard Elling wrote: Kurt Schreiner wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:38:56AM +0200, Richard Elling wrote: Vincent Fox wrote: So I decided to test out failure modes of ZFS root mirrors. Installed on a V240 with nv90. Worked great.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Filesystem for each home dir - 10,000 users?

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| Every time I've come across a usage scenario where the submitter asks | for per user quotas, its usually a university type scenario where | univeristies are notorious for providing lots of CPU horsepower (many, | many servers) attached to a simply dismal amount of back-end storage. Speaking as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Boot from mirrored vdev

2008-06-12 Thread Richard Elling
Rich Teer wrote: Hi all, Booting from a two-way mirrored metadevice created using SVM can be a bit risky, especially when one of the drives fail (not being able to form a quarum, the kernel will panic). Is booting from mirrored vdev created by using ZFS similarly iffy? That is, if one disk

[zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-12 Thread Paul B. Henson
How close is Solaris Express build 90 to what will be released as the official Solaris 10 update 6? We just bought five x4500 servers, but I don't really want to deploy in production with U5. There are a number of features in U6 I'd like to have (zfs allow for better integration with our local

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-12 Thread Albert Lee
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 17:52 -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: How close is Solaris Express build 90 to what will be released as the official Solaris 10 update 6? We just bought five x4500 servers, but I don't really want to deploy in production with U5. There are a number of features in U6 I'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They aren't even close to each other. ?Things like in-kernel cifs will never be put back. My question is, what is holding you back from just deploying on sxce? Sun now offers support for it. To the best of my knowledge, Sun has

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
I guess I find the difference between b90 and opensolaris trivial given we're supposed to be getting constant updates following the sxce builds. On 6/12/08, Mike Gerdts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They aren't even close to each other.

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I find the difference between b90 and opensolaris trivial given we're supposed to be getting constant updates following the sxce builds. But the supported version of OpenSolaris will not be on the same schedule as sxce.

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
...There was a post just this afternoon stating the opensolaris update track would be back to following sxce with b91 so I haven't a clue what you're talking about. As for the features/support they're looking for, if they wanted enterprise infallible storage, a thumper was the wrong choice day 1.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Filesystem for each home dir - 10,000 users?

2008-06-12 Thread Keith Bierman
On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Chris Siebenmann wrote: Or to put it another way: disk space is a permanent commitment, servers are not. In the olden times (e.g. 1980s) on various CDC and Univac timesharing services, I recall there being two kinds of storage ... dayfiles and permanent