[zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Ross
I'm likely to be building a ZFS server to act as NFS shared storage for a couple of VMware ESX servers. Does anybody have experience of using ZFS with VMware like this, and can anybody confirm the best zpool configuration? The server will have 16x 500GB SATA drives, with dual Opteron CPU's and

[zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-27 Thread wan_jm
the procedure is follows: 1. mkdir /tank 2. touch /tank/a 3. zpool create tank c0d0p3 this command give the following error message: cannot mount '/tank': directory is not empty; 4. reboot. then the os can only be login in from console. does it a bug? This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-27 Thread Matthew Gardiner
Hi, why are you creating a file in the directory tank? Matthew 2008/6/27 wan_jm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the procedure is follows: 1. mkdir /tank 2. touch /tank/a 3. zpool create tank c0d0p3 this command give the following error message: cannot mount '/tank': directory is not empty; 4.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/27/2008 03:39:41 AM: I'm likely to be building a ZFS server to act as NFS shared storage for a couple of VMware ESX servers. Does anybody have experience of using ZFS with VMware like this, and can anybody confirm the best zpool configuration? The server

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-27 Thread Mark J Musante
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, wan_jm wrote: the procedure is follows: 1. mkdir /tank 2. touch /tank/a 3. zpool create tank c0d0p3 this command give the following error message: cannot mount '/tank': directory is not empty; 4. reboot. then the os can only be login in from console. does it a bug?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:58:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. two caveats though. ZFS is a COW filesystem, currently with no defrag. Placing heavy write (vmware is) on this type of storage (especially, but not only if you are planning on using snapshots) you will tend to see

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Ross
Thanks both, very good pieces of advice there. Wonko, I was about to question how much difference the iRAM will actually make with it being on a single SATA connection, but after googling, for £70 + RAM it's worth buying just as an experiment. I'm really not interested in iSCSI, it might be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Ross
Bleh, just found out the i-RAM is 5v PCI only. Won't work on PCI-X slots which puts that out of the question for the motherboad I'm using. Vmetro have a 2GB PCI-E card out, but it's for OEM's only: http://www.vmetro.com/category4304.html, and I don't have any space in this server to mount a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Richard Elling
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:58:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. two caveats though. ZFS is a COW filesystem, currently with no defrag. Placing heavy write (vmware is) on this type of storage (especially, but not only if you are planning on using snapshots)

[zfs-discuss] Inconsistency from format output and zpool status

2008-06-27 Thread o______o
Hi, On OpenSolaris 2008.05 ( updated to build 91 ) with two external USB Disk: Output format -e : AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c5d0 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 1. c7t0d0 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci10cf,[EMAIL PROTECTED],7/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool create behaviour

2008-06-27 Thread Cesare
Hy Peter and all, after a couple of reboot the PowerPath and reconfiguring the LUN exported by the Clariion now all seems to working fine. Following the output of zpool status: --- machine# zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME

Re: [zfs-discuss] meta data question

2008-06-27 Thread Weldon S Godfrey 3
Thanks to Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I am sorry for my thickness and having an assumption I could not export a faulted pool. After failure, I exported then imported with zpool cmd and it came back. Thanks! Weldon If memory serves me right, sometime around Wednesday, Weldon S Godfrey

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Albert Chin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 08:13:14AM -0700, Ross wrote: Bleh, just found out the i-RAM is 5v PCI only. Won't work on PCI-X slots which puts that out of the question for the motherboad I'm using. Vmetro have a 2GB PCI-E card out, but it's for OEM's only: http://www.vmetro.com/category4304.html,

[zfs-discuss] Problem with AOC-SAT2-MV8

2008-06-27 Thread Christophe Dupre
Hi all, based on comments on this list, I bought a new server with 8 SATA bays and an AOC-SAT2-MV8 SATA controller. I them fired up a jumpstart of Solaris 10 5/08 of the server. Install runs through perfectly, with a SVM mirror of / and swap on the first two disks. But during the first boot, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] 24-port SATA controller options?

2008-06-27 Thread Christophe Dupre
Hello Blake, did you end up purchasing this ? We're considering buying a SilMech K501 as our new fileserver with a pair of Areca controllers in JBOD mode. Any experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Christophe Dupre Blake Irvin wrote: The only supported controller I've found is the Areca

Re: [zfs-discuss] 24-port SATA controller options?

2008-06-27 Thread Blake Irvin
We are currently using the 2-port Areca card SilMech offers for boot, and 2 of the Supermicro/Marvell cards for our array. Silicon Mechanics gave us great support and burn-in testing for Solaris 10. Talk to a sales rep there and I don't think you will be disappointed. cheers, Blake This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with AOC-SAT2-MV8

2008-06-27 Thread Tim
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Christophe Dupre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, based on comments on this list, I bought a new server with 8 SATA bays and an AOC-SAT2-MV8 SATA controller. I them fired up a jumpstart of Solaris 10 5/08 of the server. Install runs through perfectly, with a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Tim
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Albert Chin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 08:13:14AM -0700, Ross wrote: Bleh, just found out the i-RAM is 5v PCI only. Won't work on PCI-X slots which puts that out of the question for the motherboad I'm using. Vmetro have a 2GB PCI-E

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:22:48AM -0700, Ross wrote: Thanks both, very good pieces of advice there. Wonko, I was about to question how much difference the iRAM will actually make with it being on a single SATA connection, but after googling, for ??70 + RAM it's worth buying just as an

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: You will want mirrored slogs. Yes, always an excellent recommendation. Note that there are some companies, Crucial and STEC come to mind, sell SSDs which fit in disk form factors. IIRC, Mac Book Air and EMC use STEC's SSDs.

[zfs-discuss] 2 items on the wish list

2008-06-27 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
Hi all ; There are two tinhs that some customers are asking for constantly about ZFS. Active active clustering support. Ability to mount snap shots somewhere else. [this doesnt look easy, perhaps a proxy kind of set up ? ] Any hope for these features? Mertol

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Erik Trimble
Unfortunately, we need to be careful here with our terminology. SSD used to refer strictly to standard DRAM backed with a battery (and, maybe some sort of a fancy enclosure with a hard drive to write all DRAM data to after a power outage). It now encompasses the newer Flash-based devices. My

[zfs-discuss] modifying the zfs version, possible?

2008-06-27 Thread Francois Dion
I made the mistake of upgrading the zfs version on a usb drive I have, while on my laptop (Solaris SXDE 4) and I really needed to access this from a Solaris 10 U5 system. Is there any way around beside full backup and restore? ___ zfs-discuss mailing

[zfs-discuss] Solaris 10 does not boat

2008-06-27 Thread Andrius
Hi, there is mirrored pool in i86 system with Solaris 10. The one disc is internal SATA via PCI link, another USB mobile disc. OS does not boot when USB is plugged on. It is necessary to take it off, then system boots, then plug it on and then work OK. What a hell is that? Regards,

Re: [zfs-discuss] 2 items on the wish list

2008-06-27 Thread Dale Ghent
Re-reading your question is occurs to me that you might be referring to the ability to mount a snapshot on *another server* ? There's no built-in feature in zfs for that, but a workaround would be to do what I just detailed, with the additional step of exporting that cloned snapshot to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10 does not boat

2008-06-27 Thread Erik Trimble
Sorry about this. I just couldn't resist. Andrius wrote: Solaris 10 does not boat But it does ship! wink -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800) ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] 2 items on the wish list

2008-06-27 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:58:31AM +0300, Mertol Ozyoney wrote: Ability to mount snap shots somewhere else. [this doesnt look easy, perhaps a proxy kind of set up ? ] Snapshots are available through .zfs/snapshot/snapshot-name. Snapshots are read-only. They can be cloned to create read-write

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10 does not boat

2008-06-27 Thread James C. McPherson
Andrius wrote: Hi, there is mirrored pool in i86 system with Solaris 10. The one disc is internal SATA via PCI link, another USB mobile disc. OS does not boot when USB is plugged on. It is necessary to take it off, then system boots, then plug it on and then work OK. What a hell is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10 does not boat

2008-06-27 Thread Hay, Mausul W
Agreed -- inserting the USB drive can sometimes cause the controller targets to shift (for example, the boot device might now be c1d0 instead of c0d0) -- that will cause problems... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James C. McPherson Sent:

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-27 Thread wan_jm
I just have a try. In my opinion, if the directory is not empty, zpool should not create the pool. let me give a senario if some day our software runs on the customer site. but one engineer of the customer did the above operation failed, but he didn't do anything more. few days later , the os

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-27 Thread wan_jm
I don't know why that zfs mount failed stops all the other network service. maybe it is not a bug of zfs. it must a bug with SMF in my opinion. do you think so This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-27 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM, wan_jm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have a try. In my opinion, if the directory is not empty, zpool should not create the pool. let me give a senario if some day our software runs on the customer site. but one engineer of the customer did the above

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 03:02:43PM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote: Unfortunately, we need to be careful here with our terminology. You are completely and 100% correct, Erik. I've been throwing the term SSD around, but in the context of what I'm thinking, by SSD I mean this new-fangled flash based

Re: [zfs-discuss] 2 items on the wish list

2008-06-27 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:04:58PM -0400, Dale Ghent wrote: Re-reading your question is occurs to me that you might be referring to the ability to mount a snapshot on *another server* ? Yes, I believe that's what he's talking about. He's thinking the way a clustered filesystem would work.

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] swap dump on ZFS volume

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Mike, Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 9:36:16 PM, you wrote: MG On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've seen core dumps bigger than 10GB (even without ZFS)... :) MG Was that the size in the dump device or the size in /var/crash? If it MG was the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool i/o error

2008-06-27 Thread Victor Pajor
Here is what I found out. AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 4424 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci1022,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pci10f1,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 1. c5t1d0 SEAGATE-ST336754LW-0005-34.18GB /[EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic flush

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Mark, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 8:32:32 PM, you wrote: MM The new write throttle code put back into build 87 attempts to MM smooth out the process. We now measure the amount of time it takes MM to sync each transaction group, and the amount of data in that group. MM We dynamically resize

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration for VMware

2008-06-27 Thread Matthew Gardiner
Can anybody confirm that random read performance is definitely better with mirrored volumes. Does ZFS use all the disks in the mirror sets independently when reading data? Am I right in thinking I could have around 7x better random read performance with the 15 mirrored drives, when