Re: [zfs-discuss] Possible to do a stripe vdev?

2008-08-25 Thread Heikki Suonsivu on list forwarder
Richard Elling wrote: Heikki Suonsivu on list forwarder wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: Chris Cosby wrote: About the best I can see: zpool create dirtypool raidz 250a 250b 320a raidz 320b 400a 400b raidz 500a 500b 750a And you have to do them in that order. The zpool will

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Peter Bortas
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:19 AM, John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James isn't being a jerk because he hates your or anything... Look, yanking the drives like that can seriously damage the drives or your motherboard. It can, but it's not very likely to. Solaris doesn't let you do

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Justin
Howdy Matt. Just to make it absolutely clear, I appreciate your response. I would be quite lost if it weren't for all of the input. Unplugging a drive (actually pulling the cable out) does not simulate a drive failure, it simulates a drive getting unplugged, which is something the hardware

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Justin
Howdy Matt, thanks for the response. But I dunno man... I think I disagree... I'm kinda of the opinion that regardless of what happens to hardware, an OS should be able to work around it, if it's possible. If a sysadmin wants to yank a hard drive out of a motherboard (despite the risk of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Todd H. Poole
Howdy Matt. Just to make it absolutely clear, I appreciate your response. I would be quite lost if it weren't for all of the input. Unplugging a drive (actually pulling the cable out) does not simulate a drive failure, it simulates a drive getting unplugged, which is something the hardware

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Todd H. Poole
Howdy 404, thanks for the response. But I dunno man... I think I disagree... I'm kinda of the opinion that regardless of what happens to hardware, an OS should be able to work around it, if it's possible. If a sysadmin wants to yank a hard drive out of a motherboard (despite the risk of damage

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Todd H. Poole
jalex? As in Justin Alex? If you're who I think you are, don't you have a pretty long list of things you need to get done for Jerry before your little vacation? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Justin
alrigt, alright, but your fault. you left your workstation logged on, what was i supposed to do? not chime in? grotty yank This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Carson Gaspar
John Sonnenschein wrote: Look, yanking the drives like that can seriously damage the drives or your motherboard. Solaris doesn't let you do it and assumes that something's gone seriously wrong if you try it. That Linux ignores the behavior and lets you do it sounds more like a bug in linux

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Ralf Ramge
Todd H. Poole wrote: Hmmm... I see what you're saying. But, ok, let me play devil's advocate. What about the times when a drive fails in a way the system didn't expect? What you said was right - most of the time, when a hard drive goes bad, SMART will pick up on it's impending doom long

Re: [zfs-discuss] about variable block size

2008-08-25 Thread Mario Goebbels
For files smaller than the default (128K) or the user-defined value, the recordsize will be the smallest power of two between 512 bytes and the appropriate upper limit. For anything above the value, it's the defined recordsize for every block in the file. Variable recordsize is only for single

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Ralf Ramge
Ralf Ramge wrote: [...] Oh, and please excuse the grammar mistakes and typos. I'm in a hurry, not a retard ;-) At least I think so. -- Ralf Ramge Senior Solaris Administrator, SCNA, SCSA Tel. +49-721-91374-3963 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://web.de/ 11 Internet AG Brauerstraße 48 76135

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Heikki Suonsivu on list forwarder
Justin wrote: Howdy Matt. Just to make it absolutely clear, I appreciate your response. I would be quite lost if it weren't for all of the input. Unplugging a drive (actually pulling the cable out) does not simulate a drive failure, it simulates a drive getting unplugged, which is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Richard Elling
Todd H. Poole wrote: Howdy 404, thanks for the response. But I dunno man... I think I disagree... I'm kinda of the opinion that regardless of what happens to hardware, an OS should be able to work around it, if it's possible. If a sysadmin wants to yank a hard drive out of a motherboard

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-08-25 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/22/2008 04:26:35 PM: Just my 2c: Is it possible to do an offline dedup, kind of like snapshotting? What I mean in practice, is: we make many Solaris full-root zones. They share a lot of data as complete files. This is kind of easy to save space - make one

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Todd H. Poole wrote: So aside from telling me to [never] try this sort of thing with IDE does anyone else have any other ideas on how to prevent OpenSolaris from locking up whenever an IDE drive is abruptly disconnected from a ZFS RAID-Z array? I think that your

Re: [zfs-discuss] CF to SATA adapters for boot device

2008-08-25 Thread Jürgen Keil
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: If you are running B95, that may be the problem. I have no problem booting B93 ( previous builds) from a USB stick, but B95, which has a newer version of ZFS, does not allow me to boot from it ( the USB stick was of course recognized during installation of B95, just

Re: [zfs-discuss] about variable block size

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
Thanks for your response, from which I have known more details. However, there is one thing I am still not clear--maybe at first the size of a file is smaller than 128KB(or user-defined value), zfs can adopt some block size as you described, but when the size becomes more than 128KB by reason

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Jens Elkner
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:17:55PM +1200, Ian Collins wrote: John Sonnenschein wrote: Look, yanking the drives like that can seriously damage the drives or your motherboard. Solaris doesn't let you do it ... Haven't seen an andruid/universal soldier shipping with Solaris ... ;-) and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-25 Thread Miles Nordin
jcm == James C McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thp == Todd H Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mh == Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: js == John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: re == Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cg == Carson Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[zfs-discuss] Unable to import zpool since system hang during zfs destroy

2008-08-25 Thread Chris Murray
Hi all, I have a RAID-Z zpool made up of 4 x SATA drives running on Nexenta 1.0.1 (OpenSolaris b85 kernel). It has on it some ZFS filesystems and few volumes that are shared to various windows boxes over iSCSI. On one particular iSCSI volume, I discovered that I had mistakenly deleted some

Re: [zfs-discuss] Unable to import zpool since system hang during zfs destroy

2008-08-25 Thread Miles Nordin
cm == Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cm The next issue is that when the pool is actually imported cm (zpool import -f zp), it too hangs the whole system, albeit cm after a minute or so of disk activity. could it be #6573681?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool autoexpand property - HowTo question

2008-08-25 Thread Gordon Ross
Depending on exactly how you did it, that should have already happened. A pool will expand automatically (even in situations where you might not want it to.) Can you show details of your existing configuration that show that it hasn't expanded? # fdisk -W - /dev/rdsk/c0d0p0 * Dimensions: *

[zfs-discuss] Q : relayout disks

2008-08-25 Thread homerun
Hi I have planned to relayout current mirrored boot disk configuration which comes from days no zfs boot. History - I just converted old ufs boot slices to zfs boot , those where mirrored using solaris volume manager to zfs boot... Current layout is : 2 disks as c0d0 and c1d0 NAME STATE READ

Re: [zfs-discuss] Unable to import zpool since system hang during zfs destroy

2008-08-25 Thread Victor Latushkin
Miles Nordin wrote: cm == Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cm The next issue is that when the pool is actually imported cm (zpool import -f zp), it too hangs the whole system, albeit cm after a minute or so of disk activity. could it be #6573681?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Unable to import zpool since system hang during zfs destroy

2008-08-25 Thread Chris Murray
Ah-ha! That certainly looks like the same issue Miles - well spotted! As it happens, the zdb command failed with out of memory -- generating core dump whereas all four dd's completed successfully. I'm downloading snv96 right now - I'll install in the morning and post my results both here, and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Unable to import zpool since system hang during zfs destroy

2008-08-25 Thread Chris Murray
That's a good point - I'll try svn94 if I can get my hands on it - any idea where the download for it is? I've been going round in circles and all I can come up with are the variants of svn96 - CD, DVD (2 images), DVD (single image). Maybe that's a sign I should give up for the night! Chris