Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, ESX ,and NFS. oh my!

2009-08-13 Thread Tristan Ball
In my testing, vmware doesn't see the vm1 and vm2 filesystems. Vmware doesn't have an automounter, and doesn't traverse NFS4 sub-mounts (whatever the formal name for them is). Actually, it doesn't support NFS4 at all! Regards, Tristan. -Original Message- From:

[zfs-discuss] the antithesis of zfs

2009-08-13 Thread russell aspinwall
Are tools necessary to ensure that deleted ZFS pools can not be recovered or that deleted filesystems are really deleted? If the current delete commands do offer some level of data recovery, is worth offering a destroy command which deletes and ensures no means of recovery other than a backup?

Re: [zfs-discuss] unsetting/resetting ZFS properties

2009-08-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
Haudy Kazemi wrote: Hello, I recently asked myself this question: Is it possible to unset ZFS properties? Or reset one to its default state without looking up what that default state is? I believe the answer is yes, via the zfs inherit command (I haven't verified yet, but I think a case

Re: [zfs-discuss] the antithesis of zfs

2009-08-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
russell aspinwall wrote: Are tools necessary to ensure that deleted ZFS pools can not be recovered or that deleted filesystems are really deleted? dd if=/dev/zero over the disks, or use format(1M) analyze - purge. For just a single filesystem you can get some comfort level by doing: zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] unsetting/resetting ZFS properties

2009-08-13 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Darren J Moffat wrote: Haudy Kazemi wrote: You run: zfs set compression=off tank/home/smith but that doesn't unset the compression setting for filesystem 'smith', it just overrides the inheritance of compression=on (as expected). So how to unset/reset? zfs inherit compression

Re: [zfs-discuss] unsetting/resetting ZFS properties

2009-08-13 Thread Andrey V. Elsukov
Haudy Kazemi wrote: I recently asked myself this question: Is it possible to unset ZFS properties? Or reset one to its default state without looking up what that default state is? I have another question: is it possible to set ZFS properties without inheritance to all descendant datasets?

Re: [zfs-discuss] the antithesis of zfs

2009-08-13 Thread russell aspinwall
Thanks for clearing up the issue -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] the antithesis of zfs

2009-08-13 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Darren J Moffatdarr...@opensolaris.org wrote: russell aspinwall wrote: Are tools necessary to ensure that deleted ZFS pools can not be recovered or that deleted filesystems are really deleted? dd if=/dev/zero over the disks, or use format(1M) analyze -

Re: [zfs-discuss] resizing zpools by growing LUN

2009-08-13 Thread Sascha
Hi Darren, took me a while what device is meant by zdb -l... Original size was 20GB After resizing in EVA format -e showed the new correct size: 17. c6t6001438002A5435A0001006Dd0 HP-HSV210-6200-30.00GB /scsi_vhci/s...@g6001438002a5435a0001006d Here is the output of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, ESX ,and NFS. oh my!

2009-08-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 13, 2009, at 1:37 AM, James Hess no-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: The real benefit of the of using a separate zvol for each vm is the instantaneous cloning of a machine, and the clone will take almost no additional space initially. In our case we build a You don't have to use ZVOL

[zfs-discuss] zfs receive -o

2009-08-13 Thread Gaëtan Lehmann
Hi, One thing I miss in zfs is the ability to override an attribute value in zfs receive - something like the -o option in zfs create. This option would be particularly useful with zfs send -R to make a backup and be sure that the destination won't be mounted zfs send -R f...@snap |

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing GUID

2009-08-13 Thread Jayakrishna
Cyril, Can you please post the code, I will try to update it and get it to compile as I have a customer with the requirement. Thanks, JK -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] unsetting/resetting ZFS properties

2009-08-13 Thread Victor Latushkin
On 13.08.09 13:44, Andrey V. Elsukov wrote: Haudy Kazemi wrote: I recently asked myself this question: Is it possible to unset ZFS properties? Or reset one to its default state without looking up what that default state is? I have another question: is it possible to set ZFS properties

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS dynamically grow pool sizes? (re: Windows Home Server)

2009-08-13 Thread Russell Hansen
Is it possible to use the zfs copies property and put the disks individually into a pool? That would give you 3TB (1.5 + 1 + .5) usable. http://blogs.sun.com/relling/entry/zfs_copies_and_data_protection States that copies will be spread across disks. But what I don't know (and don't have a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS dynamically grow pool sizes? (re: Windows Home Server)

2009-08-13 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Wed, Aug 12 at 17:30, Adam Sherman wrote: I believe you will get .5 TB in this example, no? 1.5T, 1.0T and 0.5T in a single RAID-Z is equivalent to three 0.5T drives in a RAID-Z, which gets you two units worth of capacity and one unit of parity, summing to 1.0T usable. -- Eric D. Mudama

Re: [zfs-discuss] unsetting/resetting ZFS properties

2009-08-13 Thread Haudy Kazemi
In short, I think an alias for 'zfs inherit' could be added to 'zfs set' to make it more clear to those of us still new to ZFS. Either that, or add some additional pointers in the Properties documentation that the set command can't unset/reset properties. That would to me be confusing it

Re: [zfs-discuss] utf8only and normalization properties

2009-08-13 Thread Haudy Kazemi
Nicolas Williams wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:44PM -0500, Haudy Kazemi wrote: I'm wondering what are some use cases for ZFS's utf8only and normalization properties. They are off/none by default, and can only be set when the filesystem is created. When should they specifically be

[zfs-discuss] Books on File Systems and File System Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Louis-Frédéric Feuillette
I saw this question on another mailing list, and I too would like to know. And I have a couple questions of my own. == Paraphrased from other list == Does anyone have any recommendations for books on File Systems and/or File Systems Programming? == end == I have some texts listed below, but are

Re: [zfs-discuss] utf8only and normalization properties

2009-08-13 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 05:57:57PM -0500, Haudy Kazemi wrote: Therefore, if you need to interoperate with MacOS X then you should enable the normalization feature. Thank you for the reply. My goal is to configure the filesystem for the lowest common denominator without knowing up front

Re: [zfs-discuss] new logbias property

2009-08-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Eric Schrock wrote: On 08/11/09 06:03, Darren J Moffat wrote: I thought so too initially, then I changed my mind and I like it the way it is. The reason being is that describing the intent allows changing the implementation and keeping the meaning. It is the intent that matters to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs improvements to compression in Solaris 10?

2009-08-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Prabahar Jeyaram wrote: You seem to be hitting : http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6586537 The fix is available in OpenSolaris build 115 and later not for Solaris 10 yet. Have you got more information on how was it fixed? -- Robert Milkowski

Re: [zfs-discuss] Books on File Systems and File System Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Maurice Castro
Going back a fair way the basics of FS design are in books like the following Chapter 7 and 8 of The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System, Leffler, McKusick, Karels and Quarterman covers the FFS Chapter 6 of The Magic Garden Explained, Goodheart and Cox addresses