Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it safe/possible to idle HD's in a ZFS Vdev to save wear/power?

2010-04-17 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 04/16/10 20:26, Joe wrote: I was just wondering if it is possible to spindown/idle/sleep hard disks that are part of a Vdev pool SAFELY? it's possible. my ultra24 desktop has this enabled by default (because it's a known desktop type). see the power.conf man page; I think you may need

Re: [zfs-discuss] crypted zvol bandwith = lofidevice=`pfexec lofiadm -a /dev/zvol/rdsk/$volumepath -c aes-256-cbc`

2010-04-17 Thread Mickael Lambert
Hello Darren, Thanks for your answer! I have try without encryption and seems the same. My mean is about bandwidth. what I see is that if I write xMb/s to zfs fs then zfs write nearly xMb/s to the pool and that's attended. This pool write nearly xMb/s to lofi and that's attended. iostat lofi

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz2 drive failure zpool will not import

2010-04-17 Thread Kevin Denton
Thanks Richard, I tried removing the replacement drive and received the same error. Output of zdb -l /dev/rdsk/c5d1s0 results in: ke...@opensolaris:~# zdb -l /dev/rdsk/c5d1s0 cannot open '/dev/rdsk/c5d1s0': No such device or address All other drives have 4 readable labels 0-3 I even attempted the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: zfshistory

2010-04-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] Um ... All the same time. Even if I stat those directories ... Access: Modify: and Change: are all useless... which is why you need to stat the destination :-) Ahh. I see it now. By stat'ing the destination instead of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: file/directory granularity in-place rollback

2010-04-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Erik Trimble [mailto:erik.trim...@oracle.com] So the suggestion, or question is: Is it possible or planned to implement a rollback command, that works as fast as a link or re-link operation, implemented at a file or directory level, instead of the entire filesystem? so why

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: rm files/directories from snapshots

2010-04-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com] But is a fundamental of zfs: snapshot A read-only version of a file system or volume at a given point in time. It is specified as filesys...@name or vol...@name. Erik Trimble's assessment that it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: file/directory granularity in-place rollback

2010-04-17 Thread Erik Trimble
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Erik Trimble [mailto:erik.trim...@oracle.com] So the suggestion, or question is: Is it possible or planned to implement a rollback command, that works as fast as a link or re-link operation, implemented at a file or directory level, instead of

[zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Dave Vrona
Hi all, I'm planning a new build based on a SuperMicro chassis with 16 bays. I am looking to use up to 4 of the bays for SSD devices. After reading many posts about SSDs I believe I have a _basic_ understanding of a reasonable approach to utilizing SSDs for ZIL and L2ARC. Namely: ZIL:

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Dave Vrona wrote: 1) Mirroring. Leaving cost out of it, should ZIL and/or L2ARC SSDs be mirrored ? Mirroring the intent log is a good idea, particularly for ZFS versions which don't support removing the intent log device. 2) ZIL write cache. It appears some have

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 04/17/10 07:59, Dave Vrona wrote: 1) Mirroring. Leaving cost out of it, should ZIL and/or L2ARC SSDs be mirrored ? L2ARC cannot be mirrored -- and doesn't need to be. The contents are checksummed; if the checksum doesn't match, it's treated as a cache miss and the block is re-read from

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Vrona 1) Mirroring. Leaving cost out of it, should ZIL and/or L2ARC SSDs be mirrored ? IMHO, the best answer to this question is the one from the ZFS Best Practices guide. (I wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Vrona 2) ZIL write cache. It appears some have disabled

Re: [zfs-discuss] recomend sata controller 4 Home server with zfs raidz2 and 8x1tb hd

2010-04-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Tim Cook t...@cook.ms writes: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Eric D. Mudama edmud...@bounceswoosh.org writes: On Thu, Apr 15 at 23:57, Günther wrote: hello if you are looking for pci-e (8x), i would recommend sas/sata controller with lsi 1068E

Re: [zfs-discuss] recomend sata controller 4 Home server with zfs raidz2 and 8x1tb hd

2010-04-17 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Tim Cook t...@cook.ms writes: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Eric D. Mudama edmud...@bounceswoosh.org writes: On Thu, Apr 15 at 23:57, Günther wrote: hello if you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: rm files/directories from snapshots

2010-04-17 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/18/10 01:25 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com] But is a fundamental of zfs: snapshot A read-only version of a file system or volume at a given point in time. It is specified as filesys...@name or

Re: [zfs-discuss] recomend sata controller 4 Home server with zfs raidz2 and 8x1tb hd

2010-04-17 Thread Ethan
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 15:19, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Tim Cook t...@cook.ms writes: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Eric D. Mudama edmud...@bounceswoosh.org writes:

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Ragnar Sundblad
On 17 apr 2010, at 20.51, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Vrona 1) Mirroring. Leaving cost out of it, should ZIL and/or L2ARC SSDs be mirrored ? ... Personally, I recommend the latest build

Re: [zfs-discuss] recomend sata controller 4 Home server with zfs raidz2 and 8x1tb hd

2010-04-17 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 05:36:19PM -0400, Ethan wrote: From wikipedia, PCI is 133 MB http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte/s (32-bit at 33 MHz) 266 MB/s (32-bit at 66 MHz or 64-bit at 33 MHz) 533 MB/s (64-bit at 66 MHz) Not quite the 3GB/s hoped for. Not quite, but somewhat closer to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Dave Vrona
Ok, so originally I presented the X-25E as a reasonable approach. After reading the follow-ups, I'm second guessing my statement. Any decent alternatives at a reasonable price? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up ZFS on AHCI disks

2010-04-17 Thread Willard Korfhage
I solved the mystery - an astounding 7 out of the 10 brand new disks I was using were bad. I was using 4 at a time, and it wasn't until a good one got in the mix that I realized what was wrong. FYI, these were Western Digital WD15EADS and Samsung HD154UI. Each brand was mostly bad, with one or

[zfs-discuss] zfs snapshots and rsync

2010-04-17 Thread G. Ander
Hi, I've got a large file - 20gigs - which is stored in a zfs dataset. I snapshotted the dataset and rsynced an newer, updated version of the same file - slightly larger, but with mostly unchanged data. According to how rsync works, the actual sent data should be much less than the size of

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs snapshots and rsync

2010-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, G. Ander wrote: According to how rsync works, the actual sent data should be much less than the size of the file(s), however, I noticed that the used space of the dataset+snapshot was the combined size of the older and newer file. The increase of space consumed is

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Ragnar Sundblad
On 18 apr 2010, at 00.52, Dave Vrona wrote: Ok, so originally I presented the X-25E as a reasonable approach. After reading the follow-ups, I'm second guessing my statement. Any decent alternatives at a reasonable price? How much is reasonable? :-) I guess there are STEC drives that

Re: [zfs-discuss] recomend sata controller 4 Home server with zfs raidz2 and 8x1tb hd

2010-04-17 Thread Erik Trimble
Since we're talking about an old PCI slot here, I'd say there's really two good options: A SiliconImage Sil3114-based card, which is a 32-bit/66Mhz card, with 4 SATA-1 ports, usually for $25 A Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 card, which is a 64-bit/100Mhz PCI-X card (but will fit and run just fine

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs snapshots and rsync

2010-04-17 Thread Erik Trimble
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, G. Ander wrote: According to how rsync works, the actual sent data should be much less than the size of the file(s), however, I noticed that the used space of the dataset+snapshot was the combined size of the older and newer file. The increase

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
On Apr 17, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Vrona 1) Mirroring. Leaving cost out of it, should ZIL and/or L2ARC SSDs be mirrored ? IMHO, the best answer to this question