Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

2010-12-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:23 PM The question of IOPS here is relevant to conversation because of ZIL dedicated log. If you have advanced short-stroking to get the write latency of a log device down to zero, then it can

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

2010-12-29 Thread Kevin Walker
You do seem to misunderstand ZIL. ZIL is quite simply write cache and using a short stroked rotating drive is never going to provide a performance increase that is worth talking about and more importantly ZIL was designed to be used with a RAM/Solid State Disk. We use sata2 *HyperDrive5* RAM

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

2010-12-29 Thread Jason Warr
HyperDrive5 = ACard ANS9010 I have personally been wanting to try one of these for some time as a ZIL device. On 12/29/2010 06:35 PM, Kevin Walker wrote: You do seem to misunderstand ZIL. ZIL is quite simply write cache and using a short stroked rotating drive is never going to provide a

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

2010-12-29 Thread Fred Liu
I do the same with ACARD… Works well enough. Fred From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jason Warr Sent: 星期四, 十二月 30, 2010 8:56 To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

2010-12-29 Thread Erik Trimble
On 12/29/2010 4:55 PM, Jason Warr wrote: HyperDrive5 = ACard ANS9010 I have personally been wanting to try one of these for some time as a ZIL device. Yes, but do remember these require a half-height 5.25 drive bay, and you really, really should buy the extra CF card for backup. Also,

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS/short stroking vs. SSDs for ZIL

2010-12-29 Thread ja...@warr.net
Had not even noticed the LVD version. The biggest issue for me is not the form factor but the how hard it would be to get the client I work for to accept them in the env given support issues. - Reply message - From: Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com Date: Wed, Dec 29, 2010 19:52