Re: [zfs-discuss] Directory is not accessible

2012-11-26 Thread Justin Stringfellow
unlink(1M)? cheers, --justin From: Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com To: Sami Tuominen sami.tuomi...@tut.fi; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Monday, 26

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ok for single disk dev box?

2012-08-30 Thread Justin Stringfellow
has only one drive. If ZFS detects something bad it might kernel panic and lose the whole system right? What do you mean by lose the whole system? A panic is not a bad thing, and also does not imply that the machine will not reboot successfully. It certainly doesn't guarantee your OS will

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ok for single disk dev box? D1B1A95FBD cf7341ac8eb0a97fccc477127fd...@sn2prd0410mb372.namprd04.prod.outlook.com

2012-08-30 Thread Justin Stringfellow
would be very annoying if ZFS barfed on a technicality and I had to reinstall the whole OS because of a kernel panic and an unbootable system. Is this a known scenario with ZFS then? I can't recall hearing of this happening. I've seen plenty of UFS filesystems dieing with panic: freeing

Re: [zfs-discuss] number of blocks changes

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Can you check whether this happens from /dev/urandom as well? It does: finsdb137@root dd if=/dev/urandom of=oub bs=128k count=1 while true do ls -s oub sleep 1 done 0+1 records in 0+1 records out    1 oub    1 oub    1 oub    1 oub    1 oub    4 oub    4 oub    4 oub    4 oub    4 oub

Re: [zfs-discuss] number of blocks changes

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Stringfellow
I think for the cleanness of the experiment, you should also include sync after the dd's, to actually commit your file to the pool. OK that 'fixes' it: finsdb137@root dd if=/dev/random of=ob bs=128k count=1 sync while true do ls -s ob sleep 1 done 0+1 records in 0+1 records out    4 ob  

[zfs-discuss] number of blocks changes

2012-08-03 Thread Justin Stringfellow
While this isn't causing me any problems, I'm curious as to why this is happening...: $ dd if=/dev/random of=ob bs=128k count=1 while true do ls -s ob sleep 1 done 0+1 records in 0+1 records out    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1 ob    1

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Justin Stringfellow
You do realize that the age of the universe is only on the order of around 10^18 seconds, do you? Even if you had a trillion CPUs each chugging along at 3.0 GHz for all this time, the number of processor cycles you will have executed cumulatively is only on the order 10^40, still 37 orders of

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Justin Stringfellow
The point is that hash functions are many to one and I think the point was about that verify wasn't really needed if the hash function is good enough. This is a circular argument really, isn't it? Hash algorithms are never perfect, but we're trying to build a perfect one?   It seems to me

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Justin Stringfellow
This assumes you have low volumes of deduplicated data. As your dedup ratio grows, so does the performance hit from dedup=verify. At, say, dedupratio=10.0x, on average, every write results in 10 reads. Well you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs! Not a very nice one, anyway.   Yes

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Since there is a finite number of bit patterns per block, have you tried to just calculate the SHA-256 or SHA-512 for every possible bit pattern to see if there is ever a collision?  If you found an algorithm that produced no collisions for any possible block bit pattern, wouldn't that be

Re: [zfs-discuss] SPARC SATA, please.

2009-06-24 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Richard Elling wrote: Miles Nordin wrote: ave == Andre van Eyssen an...@purplecow.org writes: et == Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com writes: ea == Erik Ableson eable...@mac.com writes: edm == Eric D. Mudama edmud...@bounceswoosh.org writes: ave The LSI SAS controllers with

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-23 Thread Justin Stringfellow
with other Word files. You will thus end up seeking all over the disk to read _most_ Word files. Which really sucks. snip very limited, constrained usage. Disk is just so cheap, that you _really_ have to have an enormous amount of dup before the performance penalties of dedup are

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-08 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Raw storage space is cheap. Managing the data is what is expensive. Not for my customer. Internal accounting means that the storage team gets paid for each allocated GB on a monthly basis. They have stacks of IO bandwidth and CPU cycles to spare outside of their daily busy period. I can't

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-08 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Does anyone know a tool that can look over a dataset and give duplication statistics? I'm not looking for something incredibly efficient but I'd like to know how much it would actually benefit our Check out the following blog..:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-27 Thread Justin Stringfellow
UFS == Ultimate File System ZFS == Zettabyte File System it's a nit, but.. UFS != Ultimate File System ZFS != Zettabyte File System cheers, --justin ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] need some explanation

2007-04-30 Thread Justin Stringfellow
zpool list doesn't reflect pool usage stats instantly. Why? This is no different to how UFS behaves. If you rm a file, this uses the system call unlink(2) to do the work which is asynchronous. In other words, unlink(2) almost immediately returns a successful return code to rm (which can

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. rmvolmgr

2007-04-10 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Is there a more elegant approach that tells rmvolmgr to leave certain devices alone on a per disk basis? I was expecting there to be something in rmmount.conf to allow a specific device or pattern to be excluded but there appears to be nothing. Maybe this is an RFE?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS needs a viable backup mechanism

2006-07-07 Thread Justin Stringfellow
Why aren't you using amanda or something else that uses tar as the means by which you do a backup? Using something like tar to take a backup forgoes the ability to do things like the clever incremental backups that ZFS can achieve though; e.g. only backing the few blocks that have changed in