Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-05 Thread James Lever
On 05/07/2009, at 1:57 AM, Ross Walker wrote: Barriers are by default are disabled on ext3 mounts... Google it and you'll see interesting threads in the LKML. Seems there was some serious performance degradation in using them. A lot of decisions in Linux are made in favor of performance over da

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-04 Thread David Magda
On Jul 4, 2009, at 14:30, Miles Nordin wrote: yes, which is why it's worth suspecting knfsd as well. However I don't think you can sell a Solaris system that performs 1/3 as well on better hardware without a real test case showing the fast system's broken. It should be noted that RAID-0 perfo

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-04 Thread Miles Nordin
> "rw" == Ross Walker writes: rw> Barriers are by default are disabled on ext3 mounts... http://lwn.net/Articles/283161/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458936 enabled by default on SLES. to enable on other distro: mount -t ext3 -o barrier=1 (no help if using LVM2)

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-04 Thread Ross Walker
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:38 AM, James Lever wrote: > > On 04/07/2009, at 1:49 PM, Ross Walker wrote: > >> I ran some benchmarks back when verifying this, but didn't keep them >> unfortunately. >> >> You can google: XFS Barrier LVM OR EVMS and see the threads about this. > > Interesting reading.  Te

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-03 Thread James Lever
On 04/07/2009, at 1:49 PM, Ross Walker wrote: I ran some benchmarks back when verifying this, but didn't keep them unfortunately. You can google: XFS Barrier LVM OR EVMS and see the threads about this. Interesting reading. Testing seems to show that either it's not relevant or there is

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-03 Thread Ross Walker
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM, James Lever wrote: > > On 04/07/2009, at 10:42 AM, Ross Walker wrote: > >> XFS on LVM or EVMS volumes can't do barrier writes due to the lack of >> barrier support in LVM and EVMS, so it doesn't do a hard cache sync like it >> would on a raw disk partition which make

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-03 Thread James Lever
On 04/07/2009, at 10:42 AM, Ross Walker wrote: XFS on LVM or EVMS volumes can't do barrier writes due to the lack of barrier support in LVM and EVMS, so it doesn't do a hard cache sync like it would on a raw disk partition which makes the numbers higher, BUT with battery backed write cache

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] surprisingly poor performance

2009-07-03 Thread Ross Walker
On Jul 3, 2009, at 8:20 PM, James Lever wrote: On 03/07/2009, at 10:37 PM, Victor Latushkin wrote: Slog in ramdisk is analogous to no slog at all and disable zil (well, it may be actually a bit worse). If you say that your old system is 5 years old difference in above numbers may be due