Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-06-02 Thread Roch
Anton Rang writes: On May 31, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering wrote: I'm not taking a stance on this, but if I keep a controler full of 128K I/Os and assuming there are targetting contiguous physical blocks, how different is that to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Darren J Moffat
Anton Rang wrote: It's also worth noting that the customers for whom streaming is a real issue tend to be those who are willing to spend a lot of money for reliability (think replicating the whole system+storage) rather than compromising performance; for them, simply the checksumming overhead

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering
Anton wrote: (For what it's worth, the current 128K-per-I/O policy of ZFS really hurts its performance for large writes. I imagine this would not be too difficult to fix if we allowed multiple 128K blocks to be allocated as a group.) I'm not taking a stance on this, but if I keep a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Anton Rang
On May 31, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering wrote: I'm not taking a stance on this, but if I keep a controler full of 128K I/Os and assuming there are targetting contiguous physical blocks, how different is that to issuing a very large I/O ? There are

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 10:48, Anton Rang wrote: We generally take one interrupt for each I/O (if the CPU is fast enough), so instead of taking one interrupt for 8 MB (for instance), we take 64. Hunh. Gigabit ethernet devices typically implement some form of interrupt blanking or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 14:59 -0500, Anton Rang wrote: On May 30, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Richard Elling wrote: [assuming we're talking about disks and not hardware RAID arrays...] It'd be interesting to know how many customers plan to use raw disks, and how their performance relates to hardware

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-sourceQFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-30 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Anton, Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 9:59:09 PM, you wrote: AR On May 30, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Richard Elling wrote: [assuming we're talking about disks and not hardware RAID arrays...] AR It'd be interesting to know how many customers plan to use raw disks, AR and how their performance relates