Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Eric Schrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption. Over time, ZFS's heavy use of the VM system causes the address space to

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-07 Thread Bill Moore
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 09:50:47AM +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: Eric Schrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption.

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-07 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Darren J Moffat wrote: Eric Schrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption. Over time, ZFS's heavy use

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-07 Thread J.P. McGlinn
Eric Schrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption. Over time, ZFS's heavy use of the VM system causes the address

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Darren Reed
Siegfried Nikolaivich wrote: Hello, What kind of x86 CPU does ZFS prefer? In particular, what kind of CPU is optimal when using RAID-Z with a large number of disks (8)? My experience is that for hardware that will be used in a server orientated role, there are a lot of considerations

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Steven Sim
Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? Sorry if this is a dumb question! Warmest Regards Steven Sim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, What kind of

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Darren J Moffat
Steven Sim wrote: Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? ZFS doesn't necessarily use more memory (physical or virtual) than UFS it needs more VM *address

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Casper . Dik
Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? Memory is always good; but it is *virtual* memory (address space) which matters most. The 32 bit kernel only has a

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Roch
Darren J Moffat writes: Steven Sim wrote: Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? ZFS doesn't necessarily use more memory (physical or

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Casper . Dik
Darren J Moffat wrote: Steven Sim wrote: Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? ZFS doesn't necessarily use more memory (physical or virtual) than

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption. Over time, ZFS's heavy use of the VM system causes the address space to become fragmented.