Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Collins
can you guess? wrote: There aren't free alternatives in linux or freebsd that do what zfs does, period. No one said that there were: the real issue is that there's not much reason to care, since the available solutions don't need to be *identical* to offer *comparable* value

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:45:55PM -0800, can you guess? wrote: There aren't free alternatives in linux or freebsd that do what zfs does, period. No one said that there were: the real issue is that there's not much reason to care, since the available solutions don't need to be If you

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write time performance question

2007-12-06 Thread przemolicc
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:02:43PM -0800, Tim Cook wrote: what firmware revision are you at? Revision: 415G Regards przemol -- http://przemol.blogspot.com/ -- A co by bylo, gdybys to TY rzadzil? Kliknij

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Kyle McDonald
can you guess? wrote: There aren't free alternatives in linux or freebsd that do what zfs does, period. No one said that there were: the real issue is that there's not much reason to care, since the available solutions don't need to be *identical* to offer *comparable* value (i.e.,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Tim Cook
Whoever coined that phrase must've been wrong, it should definitely be By billtodd you've got it. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Tim Cook
For the same reason he won't respond to Jone, and can't answer the original question. He's not trying to help this list out at all, or come up with any real answers. He's just here to troll. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Tim Cook
As I explained, there are eminently acceptable alternatives to ZFS from any objective standpoint. So name these mystery alternatives that come anywhere close to the protection, functionality, and ease of use that zfs provides. You keep talking about how they exist, yet can't seem to come

[zfs-discuss] mixing raidz1 and raidz2 in same pool

2007-12-06 Thread Kam
Does anyone know if there are any issues mixing one 5+2 raidz2 in the same pool with 6 5+1 raidz1 vdevs? Would there be any performance hit? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Dick Davies
On Dec 6, 2007 1:13 AM, Bakul Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that I don't wish to argue for/against zfs/billtodd but the comment above about no *real* opensource software alternative zfs automating checksumming and simple snapshotting caught my eye. There is an open source alternative

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/06/2007 09:58:00 AM: On Dec 6, 2007 1:13 AM, Bakul Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that I don't wish to argue for/against zfs/billtodd but the comment above about no *real* opensource software alternative zfs automating checksumming and simple

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread can you guess?
apologies in advance for prolonging this thread .. Why do you feel any need to? If you were contributing posts as completely devoid of technical content as some of the morons here have recently been submitting I could understand it, but my impression is that the purpose of this forum is to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Memory Sticks

2007-12-06 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, # /usr/sbin/zpool import pool: Radical-Vol id: 3051993120652382125 state: FAULTED status: One or more devices contains corrupted data. action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-5E config: Radical-Vol

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread can you guess?
can you guess? wrote: There aren't free alternatives in linux or freebsd that do what zfs does, period. No one said that there were: the real issue is that there's not much reason to care, since the available solutions don't need to be *identical* to offer *comparable*

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help replacing dual identity disk in ZFS raidz and SVM mirror

2007-12-06 Thread Matt B
Anyone? Really need some help here This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread can you guess?
(Can we declare this thread dead already?) Many have already tried, but it seems to have a great deal of staying power. You, for example, have just contributed to its continued vitality. Others seem to care. *identical* to offer *comparable* value (i.e., they each have different

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Bakul Shah
The 45 byte score is the checksum of the top of the tree, isn't that right? Yes. Plus an optional label. ZFS snapshots and clones save a lot of space, but the 'content-hash == address' trick means you could potentially save much more. Especially if you carry around large files (disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread Tim Cook
STILL haven't given us a list of these filesystems you say match what zfs does. STILL coming back with long winded responses with no content whatsoever to try to divert the topic at hand. And STILL making incorrect assumptions. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] why are these three ZFS caches using so much kmem?

2007-12-06 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Following suggestions from Andre and Rich that this was probably the ARC, I've implemented a 256Mb limit for my system's ARC, per the Solaris Internals wiki: * http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide#ARCSIZE * set arc max to 256Mb set

[zfs-discuss] Moving ZFS file system to a different system

2007-12-06 Thread Walter Faleiro
Hi All, We are currently a hardware issue with our zfs file server hence the file system is unusable. We are planning to move it to a different system. The setup on the file server when it was running was bash-3.00# zpool status pool: store1 state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write time performance question

2007-12-06 Thread eric kustarz
On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Anton B. Rang wrote: This might have been affected by the cache flush issue -- if the 3310 flushes its NVRAM cache to disk on SYNCHRONIZE CACHE commands, then ZFS is penalizing itself. I don't know whether the 3310 firmware has been updated to support the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Yager on ZFS

2007-12-06 Thread can you guess?
can you guess? wrote: There aren't free alternatives in linux or freebsd that do what zfs does, period. No one said that there were: the real issue is that there's not much reason to care, since the available solutions don't need to be *identical* to offer *comparable* value

Re: [zfs-discuss] why are these three ZFS caches using so much kmem?

2007-12-06 Thread James C. McPherson
Artem Kachitchkine wrote: James McPherson wrote: Following suggestions from Andre and Rich that this was probably the ARC, I've implemented a 256Mb limit for my system's ARC, per the Solaris Internals wiki: * http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide#ARCSIZE *

Re: [zfs-discuss] Seperate ZIL

2007-12-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 06:12:18PM -0600, Al Hopper wrote: PS: LsiLogic just updated their SAS HBAs and have a couple of products very reasonably priced IMHO. Combine that with a (single ?) Fujitsu MAX3xxxRC (where xxx represents the size) and you'll be wearing a big smile every time you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Seperate ZIL

2007-12-06 Thread Scott Laird
On 12/6/07, Brian Hechinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 06:12:18PM -0600, Al Hopper wrote: PS: LsiLogic just updated their SAS HBAs and have a couple of products very reasonably priced IMHO. Combine that with a (single ?) Fujitsu MAX3xxxRC (where xxx represents the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Seperate ZIL

2007-12-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 06:12:18PM -0600, Al Hopper wrote: I don't think you'll see any worthwhile improvement. For a ZIL device, you really need something like a (small) SAS 15k RPM 3.5 drive - which will sustain 700 to 900 IOPS (my number - open to argument) - or a RAM disk or one of

[zfs-discuss] In-place upgrades of Solaris Express on ZFS root (updated)

2007-12-06 Thread Albert Lee
Hi folks, I've updated zfs_ttinstall to work correctly (finally =P) and for slightly better error handling. This allows you to perform an in-place upgrade on a Solaris Express system that is using ZFS root. Sorry, no Live Upgrade for now. You will have to boot from DVD media for the upgrade (CDs