[zfs-discuss] Problem with snapshot

2009-01-29 Thread Abishek
Hi I am facing some problems after rolling back the snapshots created on pool. Environment: bash-3.00# uname -a SunOS hostname 5.10 Generic_118833-17 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100 ZFS version: bash-3.00# zpool upgrade This system is currently running ZFS version 2. All pools are formatted

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add SSD drive as L2ARC(?) cache to existing ZFS raid?

2009-01-29 Thread Orvar Korvar
Thanx for your answers guys. :o) I dont contemplating trying this for my ZFS raid, as the SSD drives are expensive right now. I just want to be able to answer questions when I convert Windows/Linux to Solaris. And therefore collect info. Has anyone tried this on a blogg? Would be cool to

Re: [zfs-discuss] need to add space to zfs pool that's part of SNDR replication

2009-01-29 Thread Jim Dunham
BJ, The means to specify this is sndradm -nE ..., when 'E' is equal enabled. Got it. Nothing on the disk, nothing to replicate (yet). :-) The manner in which SNDR can guarantee that two or more volumes are write-order consistent, as they are replicated is place them in the same I/O

[zfs-discuss] strange performance drop of solaris 10/zfs

2009-01-29 Thread Kevin Maguire
Hi We have been using a Solaris 10 system (Sun-Fire-V245) for a while as our primary file server. This is based on Solaris 10 06/06, plus patches up to approx May 2007. It is a production machine, and until about a week ago has had few problems. Attached to the V245 is a SCSI RAID array, which

[zfs-discuss] ZFS with Rational (ClearCase VOB) Supported ???

2009-01-29 Thread Vikash Gupta
Hi, Is anyone using ZFS with IBM now Rational (ClearCase VOB)? I am looking for how to take the VOB backup using the ZFS snapshot and restoring it? Is this a supported config from vendor side? Any help would be appreciated. Rgds Vikash

Re: [zfs-discuss] strange performance drop of solaris 10/zfs

2009-01-29 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Kevin Maguire k.c.f.magu...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried to establish if some client or clients are thrashing the server via nfslogd, but without seeing anything obvious. Is there some kind of per-zfs-filesystem iostat? The following should work in bash or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add SSD drive as L2ARC(?) cache to existing ZFS raid?

2009-01-29 Thread Orvar Korvar
Imagine 10 SATA discs in raidz2 and one or two SSD drives as a cache. Each Vista client reaches ~90MB/sec to the server, using Solaris CIFS and iSCSI. So you want to use iSCSI with this. (iSCSI allows ZFS to export a file system as a native SCSI disc to a desktop PC. The desktop PC can mount

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Christine Tran christine.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Christine Tran christine.t...@gmail.com wrote: What is wrong with this? # chmod -R A+user:webservd:add_file/write_data/execute:allow /var/apache chmod: invalid mode:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Christine Tran
There was a very long discussion about this a couple of weeks ago on one of the lists. Apparently the decision was made to put the GNU utilities in default system wide path before the native Sun utilities in order to make it easier to attract Linux users by making the environment more

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add SSD drive as L2ARC(?) cache to existing ZFS raid?

2009-01-29 Thread kristof
Kebabber, You can't expose zfs filesystems over iSCSI. You only can expose ZFS volumes (raw volumes) over iscsi. PS: 2 weeks ago I did a few tests, using filebench. I saw little to no improvement using a 32GB Intel X25E SSD. Maybe this is because filebench is flushing the cache in between

Re: [zfs-discuss] Add SSD drive as L2ARC(?) cache to existing ZFS raid?

2009-01-29 Thread Greg Mason
How were you running this test? were you running it locally on the machine, or were you running it over something like NFS? What is the rest of your storage like? just direct-attached (SAS or SATA, for example) disks, or are you using a higher-end RAID controller? -Greg kristof wrote:

[zfs-discuss] Problems with '..' on ZFS pool

2009-01-29 Thread Dustin Marquess
Hello. I have a really weird problem with a ZFS pool on one machine, and it's only with 1 pool on that machine (the other pool is fine). Any non-root users cannot access '..' on any directories where the pool is mounted, eg: /a1000 on a1000

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems with '..' on ZFS pool

2009-01-29 Thread Dustin Marquess
Forgot to add that a truss shows: 14960: lstat64(/a1000/.., 0xFFBFF7E8)Err#13 EACCES [file_dac_search] ppriv shows the error in UFS: $ ppriv -e -D -s -file_dac_search ls -ld /a1000/.. ls[15022]: missing privilege file_dac_search (euid = 100, syscall = 216) needed at

Re: [zfs-discuss] destroy means destroy, right?

2009-01-29 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:16:37 -0500 Christine Tran christine.t...@gmail.com wrote: Everybody respects rm -f *. +1 -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv105 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems with '..' on ZFS pool

2009-01-29 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Dustin Marquess wrote: Forgot to add that a truss shows: 14960: lstat64(/a1000/.., 0xFFBFF7E8)Err#13 EACCES [file_dac_search] ppriv shows the error in UFS: $ ppriv -e -D -s -file_dac_search ls -ld /a1000/.. ls[15022]: missing privilege file_dac_search (euid = 100,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Matt Harrison
Christine Tran wrote: There was a very long discussion about this a couple of weeks ago on one of the lists. Apparently the decision was made to put the GNU utilities in default system wide path before the native Sun utilities in order to make it easier to attract Linux users by making the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems with '..' on ZFS pool

2009-01-29 Thread Dustin Marquess
Bingo, they were 0750. Thanks so much, that was the one thing I didn't think of. I thought I was going crazy :). Thanks again! -Dustin -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] firewire card?

2009-01-29 Thread Alan Perry
I am pretty sure that Oxford 911 is a family of parts. The current Oxford Firewire parts are the 934 and 936 families. It appears that the Oxford 911 was commonly used in drive enclosures. The most troublesome part in my experience is the Initio INIC-1430. It does not get along with scsa1394

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Ross
Yeah, breaking functionality in one of the main reasons people are going to be trying OpenSolaris is just dumb... really, really dumb. One thing Linux, Windows, OS/X, etc all get right is that they're pretty easy to use right out of the box. They're all different, but they all do their own

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Toby Thain
On 29-Jan-09, at 2:17 PM, Ross wrote: Yeah, breaking functionality in one of the main reasons people are going to be trying OpenSolaris is just dumb... really, really dumb. One thing Linux, Windows, OS/X, etc all get right is that they're pretty easy to use right out of the box.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Import Issues Btw 101 104

2009-01-29 Thread Daniel Templeton
I just noticed that my previous assessment was not quite accurate. It's even stranger. Let's try again. On S10/b101, I have two pools: zpool list NAME SIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT double 172G 116G 56.3G67% ONLINE - single 516G 61.3G 455G11% ONLINE -

Re: [zfs-discuss] destroy means destroy, right?

2009-01-29 Thread Orvar Korvar
Maybe add a timer or something? When doing a destroy, ZFS will keep everything for 1 minute or so, before overwriting. This way the disk won't get as fragmented. And if you had fat fingers and typed wrong, you have up to one minute to undo. That will catch 80% of the mistakes? -- This message

Re: [zfs-discuss] destroy means destroy, right?

2009-01-29 Thread Jacob Ritorto
I like that, although it's a bit of an intelligence insulter. Reminds me of the old pdp11 install ( http://charles.the-haleys.org/papers/setting_up_unix_V7.pdf ) -- This step makes an empty file system. 6.The next thing to do is to restore the data onto the new empty file system. To do this

[zfs-discuss] write cache and cache flush

2009-01-29 Thread Greg Mason
So, I'm still beating my head against the wall, trying to find our performance bottleneck with NFS on our Thors. We've got a couple Intel SSDs for the ZIL, using 2 SSDs as ZIL devices. Cache flushing is still enabled, as are the write caches on all 48 disk devices. What I'm thinking of doing

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Given the massive success of GNU based systems (Linux, OS X, *BSD) Ouch! Neither OSX nor *BSD are GNU-based. They do ship with GNU-related things but that's been a long and hard battle. And the massive success has really only been Linux due to brilliant PR (and FUD about *BSD) and OS X due to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Ian Collins
Volker A. Brandt wrote: Given the massive success of GNU based systems (Linux, OS X, *BSD) Ouch! Neither OSX nor *BSD are GNU-based. Not here, please. This topic has been beaten to death on the discuss list, where it's topical. -- Ian.

Re: [zfs-discuss] destroy means destroy, right?

2009-01-29 Thread Nathan Kroenert
For years, we resisted stopping rm -r / because people should know better, until *finally* someone said - you know what - that's just dumb. Then, just like that, it was fixed. Yes - This is Unix. Yes - Provide the gun and allow the user to point it. Just don't let it go off in their groin or

[zfs-discuss] Extended attributes in ZFS

2009-01-29 Thread Peter Reiher
Does ZFS currently support actual use of extended attributes? If so, where can I find some documentation that describes how to use them? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Extended attributes in ZFS

2009-01-29 Thread David Magda
On Jan 29, 2009, at 18:02, Peter Reiher wrote: Does ZFS currently support actual use of extended attributes? If so, where can I find some documentation that describes how to use them? Your best bet would probably be: http://search.sun.com/docs/index.jsp?qt=zfs+extended+attributes Is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Extended attributes in ZFS

2009-01-29 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 03:02:50PM -0800, Peter Reiher wrote: Does ZFS currently support actual use of extended attributes? If so, where can I find some documentation that describes how to use them? man runat.1 openat.2 etcetera Nico -- ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Extended attributes in ZFS

2009-01-29 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Peter, Yes, ZFS supports extended attributes. The runat.1 and fsattr.5 man pages are good places to start. Cindy Peter Reiher wrote: Does ZFS currently support actual use of extended attributes? If so, where can I find some documentation that describes how to use them?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-01-29 Thread Toby Thain
On 29-Jan-09, at 4:53 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: Given the massive success of GNU based systems (Linux, OS X, *BSD) Ouch! Neither OSX nor *BSD are GNU-based. I meant, extensive GNU userland (in OS X's case). (sorry Ian) --Toby They do ship with GNU-related things but that's been a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Extended attributes in ZFS

2009-01-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 03:02:50PM -0800, Peter Reiher wrote: Does ZFS currently support actual use of extended attributes? If so, where can I find some documentation that describes how to use them? man runat.1 openat.2 etcetera Nico, the

[zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Janåke Rönnblom
ACARD have launched a new RAM disk which can take up to 64 GB of ECC RAM while still looking like a standard SATA drive. If anyone remember the Gigabyte I-RAM this might be a new development in this area. Its called ACARD ANS-9010 and up...

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Nathan Kroenert
As it presents as standard SATA, there should be no reason for this not to work... It has battery backup, and CF for backup / restore from DDR2 in the event of power loss... Pretty cool. (Would have preferred a super-cap, but oh, well... ;) Should make an excellent ZIL *and* L2ARC style

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with snapshot

2009-01-29 Thread Anton B. Rang
Snapshots are not on a per-pool basis but a per-file-system basis. Thus, when you took a snapshot of testpol, you didn't actually snapshot the pool; rather, you took a snapshot of the top level file system (which has an implicit name matching that of the pool). Thus, you haven't actually

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems with '..' on ZFS pool

2009-01-29 Thread Anton B. Rang
That bug has been in Solaris forever. :-( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:11, Nathan Kroenert nathan.kroen...@sun.com wrote: Seems a little pricey for what it is though. For what it's worth, there's also a 9010B model that has only one sata port and room for six dimms instead of eight at $250 instead of $400. That might fit in your budget a

Re: [zfs-discuss] write cache and cache flush

2009-01-29 Thread Jim Mauro
Multiple Thors (more than 2?), with performance problems. Maybe it's the common demnominator - the network. Can you run local ZFS IO loads and determine if performance is expected when NFS and the network are out of the picture? Thanks, /jim Greg Mason wrote: So, I'm still beating my head

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Nathan Kroenert
You could be the first... Man up! ;) Nathan. Will Murnane wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:11, Nathan Kroenert nathan.kroen...@sun.com wrote: Seems a little pricey for what it is though. For what it's worth, there's also a 9010B model that has only one sata port and room for six dimms

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:44, Nathan Kroenert nathan.kroen...@sun.com wrote: You could be the first... Man up! ;) *sigh* The 9010b is ordered. Ground shipping, unfortunately, but eventually I'll post my impressions of it. Will Nathan. Will Murnane wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:11,

Re: [zfs-discuss] write cache and cache flush

2009-01-29 Thread Greg Mason
This problem only manifests itself when dealing with many small files over NFS. There is no throughput problem with the network. I've run tests with the write cache disabled on all disks, and the cache flush disabled. I'm using two Intel SSDs for ZIL devices. This setup is faster than using

Re: [zfs-discuss] strange performance drop of solaris 10/zfs

2009-01-29 Thread Sanjeev
Kevin, Looking at the stats I think the tank pool is about 80% full. And at this point you are possibly hitting the bug : 6596237 - Stop looking and start ganging Also, there is another ZIL related bug which worsens the case by fragmenting the space : 6683293 concurrent O_DSYNC writes to a

Re: [zfs-discuss] write cache and cache flush

2009-01-29 Thread Neil Perrin
On 01/29/09 21:32, Greg Mason wrote: This problem only manifests itself when dealing with many small files over NFS. There is no throughput problem with the network. I've run tests with the write cache disabled on all disks, and the cache flush disabled. I'm using two Intel SSDs for ZIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Issue with drive replacement

2009-01-29 Thread Wes Morgan
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Cuyler Dingwell wrote: In the process of replacing a raidz1 of four 500GB drives with four 1.5TB drives on the third one I ran into an interesting issue. The process was to remove the old drive, put the new drive in and let it rebuild. The problem was the third