Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on 32bit x86

2006-06-23 Thread Casper . Dik
AMD Geodes are 32-bit only. I haven't heard any mention that they will _ever_ be 64-bit. But, honestly, this and the Via chip aren't really ever going to be targets for Solaris. That is, they simply aren't (any substantial) part of the audience we're trying to reach with Solaris x86. I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on 32bit x86

2006-06-23 Thread Darren J Moffat
Erik Trimble wrote: Artem Kachitchkine wrote: AMD Geodes are 32-bit only. I haven't heard any mention that they will _ever_ be 64-bit. But, honestly, this and the Via chip aren't really ever going to be targets for Solaris. That is, they simply aren't (any substantial) part of the

[zfs-discuss] recommended hardware for a zfs/nfs NAS?

2006-06-23 Thread Dick Davies
I was wondering if anyone could recommend hardware forr a ZFS-based NAS for home use. The 'zfs on 32-bit' thread has scared me of a mini-itx fanless setup, so I'm looking at sparc or opteron. Ideally it would: a) run quiet (blade 100/150 is ok, x4100 ain't :) ) b) take advantage of cheap disks

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS and Virtualization

2006-06-23 Thread Dagobert Michelsen
Hello Nate, I have few issues about ZFS and virtualization: [b]Virtualization and performance[/b] When filesystem traffic occurs on a zpool containing only spindles dedicated to this zpool i/o can be distributed evenly. When the zpool is located on a lun sliced from a raid group

[zfs-discuss] http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/version/3

2006-06-23 Thread Chris Gerhard
having just upgraded to nv42 zpool status tells me I need to upgrade the ondisk version. zpool version points me at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/version/3 : : sigma TS 6 $; zpool upgrade -v This system is currently running ZFS version 3. The following versions are suppored:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: where has all my space gone? (with zfs mountroot + b38)

2006-06-23 Thread James C. McPherson
Mark Shellenbaum wrote: ... So we have a bunch of stuff in the in-core delete queue, but no threads to process them. The fact that we don't have the threads is related to the bug that Tabriz is working on. Hi Mark, after installing your fixes from three days ago and (cough!) ensuring that my

Re: Re: [zfs-discuss] 15 minute fdsync problem and ZFS: Solved

2006-06-23 Thread Joe Little
On 6/23/06, Roch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Little writes: On 6/22/06, Bill Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Joe. We're working on some ZFS changes in this area, and if you could run an experiment for us, that would be great. Just do this: echo 'zil_disable/W1' | mdb -kw

[zfs-discuss] Re: recommended hardware for a zfs/nfs NAS?

2006-06-23 Thread Wes Williams
I was wondering if anyone could recommend hardware forr a ZFS-based NAS for home use. setup, so I'm looking at sparc or opteron. Ideally it would: a) run quiet (blade 100/150 is ok, x4100 ain't :) ) Not much space in a Blade 100/150 for multiple disks, but it is quiet and cheap. For NAS

[zfs-discuss] add_install_client and ZFS and SMF incompatibility

2006-06-23 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, I just set up an install server on my notebook and of course all the installer data is on a ZFS volume. I love the zfs compression=on command! It seems that the standard ./add_install_client script from the S10U2 Tools directory creates an entry in /etc/vfstab for a loopback mount of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: recommended hardware for a zfs/nfs NAS?

2006-06-23 Thread Casper . Dik
Saturating 100Mbit with a 64-bit CPU and redundant disks for $300-400 Pounds may be tough. Anything in the market can saturate 100Mbit easily; even with a single cheap IDE disk. The disks are generally a factor 5-10 faster than the 100Mbit network. Casper

[zfs-discuss] Priorities (was: ZFS on 32bit x86)

2006-06-23 Thread Erik Trimble
Darren J Moffat wrote: This is an @opensolaris.org alias it is about working together as a community and identifying problems and discovering solutions. I don't think it is at all appropriate to bring up Sun business choices here. Where that is appropriate is when Sun employees need to

Re: [zfs-discuss] add_install_client and ZFS and SMF incompatibility

2006-06-23 Thread Rainer Orth
Constantin Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this a known issue? Yes, I've raised this during ZFS Beta as SDR-0192. For some reason, I don't have a CR here. Rainer -- - Rainer Orth, Faculty of

Re: [zfs-discuss] recommended hardware for a zfs/nfs NAS?

2006-06-23 Thread Erik Trimble
Dick Davies wrote: I was wondering if anyone could recommend hardware forr a ZFS-based NAS for home use. The 'zfs on 32-bit' thread has scared me of a mini-itx fanless setup, so I'm looking at sparc or opteron. Ideally it would: a) run quiet (blade 100/150 is ok, x4100 ain't :) ) b) take

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: recommended hardware for a zfs/nfs NAS?

2006-06-23 Thread Wes Williams
Saturating 100Mbit with a 64-bit CPU and redundant disks for $300-400 Pounds may be tough. Anything in the market can saturate 100Mbit easily; even with a single cheap IDE disk. The disks are generally a factor 5-10 faster than the 100Mbit network. Casper Indeed, I stand

Re: [zfs-discuss] recommended hardware for a zfs/nfs NAS?

2006-06-23 Thread Richard Elling
Dick Davies wrote: I was wondering if anyone could recommend hardware forr a ZFS-based NAS for home use. The 'zfs on 32-bit' thread has scared me of a mini-itx fanless setup, so I'm looking at sparc or opteron. Ideally it would: I think the issue with ZFS on 32-bit is revolving around the

Re: [zfs-discuss] 15 minute fdsync problem and ZFS: Solved

2006-06-23 Thread Richard Elling
Joe Little wrote: On 6/23/06, Roch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, you know this but for the benefit of others, I have to highlight that running any NFS server this way, may cause silent data corruption from client's point of view. Whenever a server keeps data in RAM this way and does not

Fwd: Re: [zfs-discuss] 15 minute fdsync problem and ZFS: Solved

2006-06-23 Thread Tao Chen
I should copy this to the list.-- Forwarded message --On 6/23/06, Joe Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can post back to Roch what this latency is. I think the latency is aconstant regardless of the zil or not. all that I do by disabling thezil is that I'm able to submit larger

Re: [zfs-discuss] Priorities

2006-06-23 Thread eric kustarz
How about it folks - would it be a good idea for me to explore what it takes to get such a bug/RFE setup implemented for the ZFS community on OpenSolaris.org? what's wrong with http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/index.jsp for finding bugs? i think we've been really good about taking

Re: Fwd: Re: [zfs-discuss] 15 minute fdsync problem and ZFS: Solved

2006-06-23 Thread Tao Chen
On 6/23/06, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: comment on analysis below...Tao Chen wrote: === Top 5 Devices with largest number of I/Os === DEVICEREAD AVG.ms MBWRITE AVG.ms MBIOs SEEK -- -- - -- - sd16 0.340 4948 387.88413 4954 0% sd26 0.250

Re: [zfs-discuss] Priorities

2006-06-23 Thread Mike Kupfer
EK == eric kustarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EK what's wrong with http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/index.jsp EK for finding bugs? Unless they've fixed it recently, the keywords search doesn't actually check against the Bugster keywords field. And the information presented is pretty

Re: [zfs-discuss] Priorities

2006-06-23 Thread Dale Ghent
On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:09 PM, eric kustarz wrote: How about it folks - would it be a good idea for me to explore what it takes to get such a bug/RFE setup implemented for the ZFS community on OpenSolaris.org? what's wrong with http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/index.jsp for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Priorities

2006-06-23 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Erik Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-23 11:15]: It is a good start (yes, I know it's an interface to Bugster, just as the Java one I pointed out is too - in fact, it's probably the same code). And, I'm certainly not complaining about how well people have been taking to and addressing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Priorities

2006-06-23 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 02:20:54PM -0400, Dale Ghent wrote: Second, while there is a way for Joe Random to submit a bug, there is zero way for Joe Random to interact with a bug. No voting to bump or drop a priority, no easy way to find hot topic bugs, no way to add one's own notes to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Priorities (moving forums...)

2006-06-23 Thread Erik Trimble
Please refer all followups to this thread over to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 11:27 -0700, Stephen Hahn wrote: * Erik Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-23 11:15]: It is a good start (yes, I know it's an interface to Bugster, just as the Java one I pointed out is too

[zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-23 Thread Chris Csanady
While dd'ing to an nfs filesystem, half of the bandwidth is unaccounted for. What dd reports amounts to almost exactly half of what zpool iostat or iostat show; even after accounting for the overhead of the two mirrored vdevs. Would anyone care to guess where it may be going? (This is measured